Have the women with combat jobs in the Rangers and Special Forces actually been fighting along side men?

I am extremely disappointed in the answers to this question. The question was very specific yet the answers had nothing to do with it. If our senior enlisted and our officers can’t comprehend the question then we are in trouble.

Women in Spec Ops ends the debate over men in women's sports. The selective service requirement should be abolished now. Women shouldn't be able to play the female card when it benefits them politically, or otherwise.

Wow. I just read 30-40 comments regarding this post. Most responses derided the individual posting the question instead of answering it. Why? Everyone get off your righteous indignation and just answer the question if you are able. If not…….

Bottom line is if they can’t be held to the same expectations as a man, and standards are lowered to allow them in, then combat effectiveness will be degraded. The “trans” men or trans whatever have mental illness, so this not only degrades combat effectiveness of a unit but creates a whole host of other issues as well. Those are simple facts whether certain people can handle it or not. Look all around you, men dominate certain physical jobs for a reason. Women have had the ability to join and do those jobs for years and yet they make up a very small margin in those industries. Simple answer is most women can’t cut the mustard physically. So let’s keep worrying about people’s feelings and see how that works when we go up against China which will be the equivalent of Japan in WW2. What a joke, get out of the rear with the gear and hump around with the ground pounders for a bit.

A CSMAJ came on here, and if I may translate his message: "Quit your stupid bitching and follow your orders." I'm a WAC, and I speak SMAJ (Mostly because I served in a military hospital, and they usually made the most sense in the shortest number of words).

Really? Have you been asleep for the last couple of decades?

Most Americans, and even members of the media, are not aware that 152 brave servicewomen died in the War on Terrorism. With few exceptions, news stories about their tragic deaths usually appeared only in the military press, or in small hometown newspaper stories and television accounts that rarely captured national attention. You specifically use Rangers and Special Forces as the source of women in combat roles in the Military but that is deceptive. More women in COMBAT period have lost their lives fighting along side men. And the Military for the most part is a better institution for their bravery and abilities.
In the first Persian Gulf War, 33,000 women were deployed, but only 6 perished due to scud missile explosions or accidents. At times in our history it has been necessary to send young men to fight in defense of America. Women have always served in the armed forces with courage and distinction, but there is no military necessity to send young women and mothers to fight in close combat areas where they do not have an equal opportunity to survive, or to help fellow soldiers survive. Concern for men who are fighting and dying in post-9/11 wars should not preclude discussion of problematic policies affecting our women or the need to put them in harms way for the sake of EQUALITY.

Yes! And have died! Before Ranger school, when it was discovered men can't talk to women and children with out being thought of as insensitive to the culture in the middle east women dressed up just like the special ops and carried weapons. They wore scarfs and jewelry and shocked a lot of women and children but garnered a lot of information. They've been blown up, shot and suffered all the crap that causes a PTS. It would be nice if they could get treated at the VA for it. But as we all know women aren't in combat, right. Now I'm not saying getting a bag of pills at your local VA will solve much but it's a start. As a Navy corpsman how much pain and suffering does someone need to see before it digs in? You can do better than a bag of pills or alcohol. I'm not with out sin but I can say God hasn't let me down. Sometimes it takes a bit to sink in but it helps to understand God turned a lot of the day to day crap to Mother Nature. Your local American Legion, and other vet organizations can help. You need to understand your not broken or wrong. Your mother or buddy will not understand unless they've been there. Your civilian friends lives and drama are more important to them than what ever you did. Chuckle.
SURPRISE! Women can now get care at the VA. Its hard to keep up with all the crap.

This is a funny question, woman has being in the fight for a long time not as SF or Rangers but as Soldiers doing their job.

If one was down range you will had witnessed such a bravery. Panama invasion hello a MP female got in to an outstanding fire fight also Afghanistan translator Army female assign to SF did also did many fire fighting. Iraq female soldiers also did their fighting. Read about before asking .

Former 11B here.
I ETS'd before women were allowed in the combat arms... and honestly, when I first heard they were going to be allowed in, I instinctively shot down the idea.
Like wtf, it's a MAN's job.
But then I actually started thinking.

In my unit, we had someone who was fuckin HUGE. Buff ass silverback alpha male who joined our unit several months into our deployment... first firefight he got into with us, dude was hiding like a bitch behind a HMMWV the entire time. This dude had a ranger tab, btw. Jus sayin.

There were also other dudes who would freeze up and press their asses against the wall and literally not fucking move, no matter how much you screamed at them to.

And some scrawny ass dudes who would probably get their asses kicked by a strong, aggressive female, no doubt. They were physically weaker than some fitness girls I know. They definitely couldn't pick my 220lb ass up and carry me more than 5ft. Now take some of these other women who are boxers, cage fighters, etc.. the elite (ie, civilian equivalent to rangers, sf, etc..) Now these women -- imma be honest. They'd probably fuck me up. And I consider myself a pretty decent fighter with above average strength, agility, and definitely an animalistic mean streak when I'm angry.

I don't know the answer to your question, but I wouldn't necessarily count them out if they did fuck some shit up downrange.