Posted on Jun 24, 2019
SGT James Graham
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Hey, y'all. Ive got a problem. I recently applied at an international company for an armed security position here in the states. They set up an interview for tomorrow, and said to bring all my DD214s. The issue is, I never disclosed any of my previous affiliation with the military. It wouldn't be a problem since I was only ARNG, that's easy to hide. But I have 3 deployments, and 4 DD214s on my record. This company is an affirmative action employer, and aside from my hatred for my "service", I don't want to end up getting hired just because of a law that requires it based off my part time employment with the state, and fed government. They're going to do a thorough background check, so they would find out anyway, but at that point its up to them whether to hire me or not, instead of some law requiring it. It seems though they've already found out. Even though I answered no on all the vet and military questions.
How do I politely admit to them I am "prior service" (even though I was just NG), while at the same time declining to make that a part of my resume, and not come off as shady? Should I email them back today telling them so? I've never had a problem before because the employers just did a very basic check if any. I really want this job, but I only want it if I'm hired for being me not because of an 8 year mistake I made after high school.
Do I confess to it, or just keep hiding it?
Thanks.
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PO2 John Driskill
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Good God Almighty!! You served your country and you are ashamed of it? Grow a pair and take your DD 214's in with you.
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SFC Gerald Gatlin
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How to avoid coming off as shady when I'm lying..hummmm. Nope I got nothing. Just try being honest. Nobody said you had to be proud of your service time,but to attempt to hide it means I'm passing you over for employment.
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PO1 Frank Downs
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Most security firms are heavy ex military, I’m sure they probably won’t like your view that service was a mistake, you sir did 8 years sounds like your a slow learner then or you were the problem.
If the question of military service was on the application and you marked none then you already started off with a lie, you could have marked correctly and attached a letter explaining you wish no preferences on service.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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I would think that asking not to be considered for experience is a huge mistake and one I would be concerned with especially as more likely than not it would raise suspicions why You wanted to exclude it and may well cost You an interview You otherwise may well have had. I do know when working in Management as an Operations Manager for Pinkerton Security and Investigations I preferred Veteran's and when i was hired a Retired Air Force Security Police Officer hired Me. Others in the management there included a Retired Navy Senior Chief Petty Officer, an Army First Sergeant, a Sergeant Major, and Sergeant First Class. Many of our Officers were also Veterans.
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PO2 Mike Lloyd
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought affirmative action was hiring minorities due to quota requirements not veterans. Also, why do you hate the fact that you served your country? Did someone hold a gun to your head and force you to join? I'd be willing to bet you use your veteran's discount every chance you get. Smh
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Sgt Steve Williams
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I've read this twice and can't figure out why you wouldn't bring your DD-214. Obviously they asked for it because they know you have it. Maybe they are testing to see if you will continue to lie or maybe clear up what was a mistake on their part.

And how is serving a mistake? You signed up, discovered it wasn't for you and did your time. You seem to have a strange belief that someone would hire you simply because you are a veteran. It doesn't work that way. Are you hiding something you didn't put in your original question?
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I'll skip past the office comment about 'hatred for your service,' because I don't know the circumstances for your hatred (poor unit experience, poor leadership, etc.). However, I will state that you lied on your application by answering 'no' to the military and veteran questions. As this is a security job, a job that requires trust, your refusal to tell the truth, regardless of the reason, makes you untrustworthy. When completing applications, especially for security jobs, it is essential to answer questions honestly. When/if you get an interview for the job, you should also answer honestly about your service in the National Guard and about the number of deployments. However, when pressed for more information on your experience, instead of stating your hatred for your time in uniform, just state that you served and are glad that you are out. Remember, you volunteered for the military, just as you are volunteering for this job (every job). Not all jobs are wonderful experiences and we leave them for various reasons. When pressed for details, just state that you determined that the military was not a lifestyle for you and leave it at that. Because bitching and moaning about the military or any employer makes you a bad candidate to just about every employer. Not every employee is worthy of being hired and those with poor attitudes are best left on the sidelines.

Hopefully, you will be able to look back on every job, even your job in the military as a life experience that taught you about what you wanted in life, what your strengths and weaknesses are and what you aspire to be. Not every job is exceptional and we tend not to be working the job we had at 18 for the rest of our lives. Drop the attitude and more forward, do great things, be happy and do well for others.

Allons.
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SMSgt Kent Brown
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I don't think you should worry about working at that company or any other. You lied an a job application and that should make you unemployable. You are either honest or you are not. Who would want to hire a person who falsified a job application no matter the reason. It doesn't matter if you are proud or ashamed of your service it is still a part of your background and regretfully, for some of us you will ALWAYS be a veteran.
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MSG Edward Camp
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First of all you answered no to the question. By doing so you lied on your employment application. Also in the employer's eyes you have shown a certain level of dishonesty that could impact your employment with that employer. Just remember in the future never falsify a employment application because it could come back to haunt you.
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PO1 Christopher Feugill
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As a Veterans Employment Counselor, one of the first *suggestions* I make when assisting a fellow Veteran with their resume is that they lead off with their service. "US Navy Veteran with # years experience in 'xyz occupation/industry"
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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Having served in the Military for 22 years I can't think of a reason not to include it. One place i sent a cover letter and resume they received 458 and picked mine out for a interview above all the others. I turned it down as the pay wasn't high enough even though the interviewer argued for more. .Another job of over 850 applicants I was picked and hired. As Management Myself in the civilian I preferred hiring Veterans' i already know they could work as part of a team and did things without complaint because they knew they had to be done. There also is nothing wrong with Veteran's preference, those that weren't Veteran's had more years to look than You did nor did they offer some of the experience You did and in the Military could be entrusted with duties as a younger person that a civilian of that age group would be very unlikely to have experience with. There was no eight year mistake after High school either, You had a full time job which also included serving Your country. This would not be a confession as You put it but laying out extra qualifications many do not have.
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