Posted on Dec 6, 2019
How can I help a soldier that is getting screwed over?
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I have a peer that is getting it really rough in the Army right now. He just lost his best friend a few months ago and is getting shoved around by command. Today I was told that he would need to go to NCOPD PT test after working a night shift (we work a 24 hr ops). While this sucks, it does happen and we are more than happy to get it out of the way most of the time. Due to snow, the PT test was "cancelled" and he was sent home. Thirty minutes after getting back and going to sleep, he got called back in to take it at noon. Things didn't go well and turns out this is the first PT test he has failed in the Army after nearly 5 years. He just got promotable status and I imagine will lose that. Is there anything I can do to help or resources to give him besides behavioral health?
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This is not a behavioral health issue. This would be IG, but only after you go to the first line to attempt to resolve the issue. If no help with first or second line supervisors, utilize the ope door policy. If all else fails and the command completely fails you, go to IG.
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SPC(P) (Join to see)
Sir, I believe you're spot on. I shared your advice with him and following a discussion with the commander it sounds like he feel IG might be appropriate. At this point it's his point to carry wherever but it's nice to have clarity and something to support him with.
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CPT (Join to see)
I hope the problem is resolved. It is important to always give the leadership a fair chance, this empowers them to make the right decisions. Units need to be built on trust to be successful, and trust works both ways. But, it your battle buddy isn’t receiving the assistance he deserves, even after exhausting the complete CoR and CoC, IG is the only choice, but IG should always be considered the last and final choice with these types of issues.
Please advertise to your battles, behavioral health is meant to assist Soldiers with potential mental disorders, not unit issues. Too often I see behavioral health being used as a source for Soldier assistance with unit problems, which is not appropriate and ultimately misuses the medical resource.
Please advertise to your battles, behavioral health is meant to assist Soldiers with potential mental disorders, not unit issues. Too often I see behavioral health being used as a source for Soldier assistance with unit problems, which is not appropriate and ultimately misuses the medical resource.
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SGT Nickolas Ortiz
It's pretty sad how soft the Army has gotten. We used to train hard, party harder, and NEVER complain. We trudged though ice and snow, rain or shine, and never quit. Sounds, to me, that your "friend" shouldn't have passed any of their PT tests... it's not all that difficult. Tired? Try being on patrol, not sleeping, and then coming back to a fire fight... THEN I'd take the "tired" excuse... and even then we'd still be ready to fight.
No, this generation is soft. Defiantly NOT NCO material. You suc it up, charge on... never give up.
No, this generation is soft. Defiantly NOT NCO material. You suc it up, charge on... never give up.
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SPC(P) (Join to see): Brandon, I really admire you. Thank you for what you are attempting to do for your peer.
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I've been there too. CPT (Join to see) has given sound advice, unfortunately your friend has to initiate most of those steps. What you can do however, is help motivate him to stick up for himself and start those processes. The ultimate goal here is to retest and pass, and regain his promotable status. Also, just wanted to say that you're living the army values by looking out for your peers like this, thats really cool. Keep being awesome.
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