Posted on Jul 12, 2017
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LTC Jason Mackay
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20 years of AGR duty?
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Short answer - you can't. Long answer, there would have to be some special condition that would qualify you for "regular retirement" (e.g., going active and having sufficient points/time to qualify).
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20 years active federal service in the guard - any combination of prior service active duty, active guard/ reserve (AGR) or active operational support (ADOS) - will qualify a Guard soldier for regular retirement.
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Got to do the time, brother. No free lunch here. Or if you got hurt bad on duty, you get medical retirement, wink, wink.
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CPT (Join to see) - Not looking for a free lunch. Looking to do a mission I can only do in the ARNG. I'd just rather find a way to do it without sacrificing a $2.9M pension.
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That would be ideal, brother. Let's agree active duty sucks ass at times, but there is good times too. And active duty is not more predicable, you know it is going to suck, just stick with it, and it is over. I am retiring in three as a MAJOR, hopefully. I am not stick around working for half a check. I trade stocks/options, real estate investing, and maybe earn another full check as a ROTC professor at a nice university I want to go. Input/output analysis, brother, active duty is hard to beat.
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The only way retirement pay begins immediately is to stay in until 60.
Don't forget that all your time on active duty orders (Title 10) can be subtracted from retirement age. However, it is up to you to submit all your active duty orders to your personnel center and they will track it for you. So depending on the frequency and length of deployments, you could actually retire sooner. If you are in a KC-135 unit, you could retire at 50 :)
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1SG Dennis Hicks
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Even with multiple Title 10/32 deployments the earliest barring a change or special circumstances is 55.
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My comment was in jest. Yes, you are correct about the earliest retirement age for National Guard.
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How can National Guard members qualify for "regular retirement" (kicks in immediately) instead of "non-regular retirement"?
CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
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DAY Capt (Join to see) They made a wrong decision! If you want the bennies, do the twenty! Really, there is no cheap way to pay the price.
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LTC Stephen B.
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Capt (Join to see) - Is this a career-long assignment, or just for a year or 3? Would it be possible to do a tour or two in the Guard, then return to AC? A lot of movement in the Pentagon making that type of career more viable, even including 3-year sabbaticals in the civilian world.
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Capt Space & Missile
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Sir,
I want to cross to Army Special Forces. SORB can't find a way to waiver me to try out as a senior CPT on the AD side, so I'm looking at ARNG. I'd love to come back to active duty after a tour in the ARNG. I'm just not sure if it's possible.
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MSgt Quality Assurance
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Capt (Join to see) - 20th Group is in Birmingham with us. You should check them out.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
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Capt (Join to see) - From the reports I have seen, active duty time as a National Guard SF is probably not an issue. The last thing I heard is that all of the training is Active Duty and assuming that you went back to back, which probably won't happen, I believe would end up with a total of 67 weeks, give or take just to get qualified as an 18A, assuming you are already Airborne. I suggest talking to your nearest unit to find out it's operational tempo and the opportunities to do either active missions or an AGR position.
Do we have any ARNG Special Force people in the group?
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SGT David Petree
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Last word I had was to do 30 years NG. then it kicks in.
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Hey bro, use your back or use your brain, your choice. I came back to active duty after completing a dietitian school and get direct commissioned back to Regular Army as a funny dietitian. (Yeah, it was hard, working long hours and burn the midnight oil to get another degree.) Once I am back, I told them I want to go back to my old job, Logistics, and it was approved. In the meantime, I learned ton of knowledge on how to eat right and exercise smartly. Ours is a great country for people who work hard and qualify for those opportunities. Finishing up in less than two years. You reach "sanctuary" at 18 years active duty. I have to do something really stupid to get kicked out. I am currently serving as HHC Company Commander kicking bad free loaders out myself. At 19 years, I will check myself medically and mentally, from head to toe, inside and out, and get at least 50% disability (all legit, man, a lot of wear and tear after 25 total active/reserve service by that time), with my real estate rental homes and paper trading, I probably will survive and eat. Again, no guarantees in life. I will get my passport ready and relocate if free loaders took over, and government can no longer pay my hard earned 2.9 million dollar pension. Oh, I have maintained additional term life insurance for my wife and kids on top of SGLI, just in case I die early with all those unrealized dreams of traveling the world on Uncle Sam's pension.
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TSgt Lars Eilenfeld
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Did they serve the state of their enlistment is not that state part of the country are you saying their service was any less than yours? There are more important things to worry about.
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Capt Space & Missile
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I don't understand the question.
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TSgt Lars Eilenfeld
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National Guard is a State Militia, the State is part of the Country so if they are helping keep the State safe then they are also helping the overall security of the Country. Do you view their service as being less than your own? Can't even begin to explain there are more important things to worry about means.
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MSgt Keith Hebert
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Retire from the guard at the same age as the guard retirement would start say age 60
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