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Basically, you finish your time and ETS honorably. Utilize that last year for SFLTAP and plan your way out. You'll be out of the Army sooner or later whether you like to or not, so it's a temporary issue. Don't use a permanent solution, like getting kicked out or going AWOL, to solve a temporary problem. Just focus on what you'll be doing after the Army and start preparing for that. It may be Afghanistan but you can still take classes to prepare yourself
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Yes I get what you're saying.The problem is I need to seek medical help as this is spiralling me into depression and things are not going to get better if I stay in
I don't know if medical help will alleviate my emotional distress as I have to come back to do the same stuff in army.It is kind of a loop that I feel I am trapped.
I don't know if medical help will alleviate my emotional distress as I have to come back to do the same stuff in army.It is kind of a loop that I feel I am trapped.
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SPC (Join to see) the issue isn't the Army, it's you. You need help and that's OK. We all need help at some point. Thankfully, the Army even provides help with great health insurance, if that's what you need.
Get the help you need. Chaplain is a good start even if you are non religious.
And yes, you will come back to do the same Army stuff. You will get paid a small amount and be offered the opportunity to have your food and housing paid for while you attend school and walk away without 40 years of student loan debt.
Get the help you need. Chaplain is a good start even if you are non religious.
And yes, you will come back to do the same Army stuff. You will get paid a small amount and be offered the opportunity to have your food and housing paid for while you attend school and walk away without 40 years of student loan debt.
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I completely agree.Please don't get me wrong,I don't hate army and I don't have any problem with my leaderships.Actually it's me that I feel I am not useful to army and I don't deserve to be in army at all.I can't do my job because I m psychologically distressed and I will be nothing but burden to army
All I need is help at the moment and I will see what my chain of command has to say.
All I need is help at the moment and I will see what my chain of command has to say.
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SPC (Join to see) have you thought about reclassing to 25Q? Get the help you need and look in to it
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SPC (Join to see) Don't know what your situation is, but I will give you the same advice I gave sailors of mine that wanted out. Your absolute best option is to finish the contract you signed. If you get out earlier, and you get coded with something unfavorable, then your opportunities on the outside become more difficult. Just look at how many people here on RP are asking about getting back in with certain RE codes. Stick it out, and then you have many more options open to you.
If you have family issues that are precluding your from giving it your all, work with the base Chaplain to get a hardship discharge. There has to be a demonstrable need, and they are very good at getting the paperwork done. And no, you haven't had to see them before or even step foot in the chapel.
If you are having trouble with your chain of command which is driving your decision, then talk to the Senior Enlisted. Not sure what you call them in the Army. Sometimes, they can help if you are struggling.
Best of luck to you, and I hope you get the right answers.
If you have family issues that are precluding your from giving it your all, work with the base Chaplain to get a hardship discharge. There has to be a demonstrable need, and they are very good at getting the paperwork done. And no, you haven't had to see them before or even step foot in the chapel.
If you are having trouble with your chain of command which is driving your decision, then talk to the Senior Enlisted. Not sure what you call them in the Army. Sometimes, they can help if you are struggling.
Best of luck to you, and I hope you get the right answers.
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There is a lot to unwrap from your questions. Please lt me know if I read something incorrectly.
You have a lot of support available to you. Make sure you take advantage of it. Beyond the Chaplain and chain of command, there are medical professionals who can help you with the feelings of depression. Sometimes depression is situational, sometimes it's driven by a chemical imbalance in the body that can be remedied by a doctor.
There were days in my 31 years where I said, "I can't stand the idea of having to lace up my boots again and going to work." That passed.
I hated OCS. Never did let that show as I had a goal I had set, so my motto was "I can do anything for 93 days."
This is getting too long so a question: "You say you want to get out of the Army--What is it you WANT to do?"
My very best to you on Veterans Day. You are one of .35% of the American population who have served the Nation in a combat zone this century.
Good luck.
You have a lot of support available to you. Make sure you take advantage of it. Beyond the Chaplain and chain of command, there are medical professionals who can help you with the feelings of depression. Sometimes depression is situational, sometimes it's driven by a chemical imbalance in the body that can be remedied by a doctor.
There were days in my 31 years where I said, "I can't stand the idea of having to lace up my boots again and going to work." That passed.
I hated OCS. Never did let that show as I had a goal I had set, so my motto was "I can do anything for 93 days."
This is getting too long so a question: "You say you want to get out of the Army--What is it you WANT to do?"
My very best to you on Veterans Day. You are one of .35% of the American population who have served the Nation in a combat zone this century.
Good luck.
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Sir
I am highly dissatisfied with my job and so depressed that if I continue on things are only going to get worse for me.I have good IT skills and some certs to go along with that.And I am using none of that in my job.I fear I m wasting my degree and skills that I possess.Only thing I want now is to get out honorably or get general discharge so I can do job in civilian side that I am passionate about.I worried about my mental health because of the situation I m in.I just can't concentrate on my job maybe coz I m so depressed that nothing interest me in my current mos.Trying to suck it up and waiting for ETS will definitely take a huge toll in my mental health.What do I do?
I am highly dissatisfied with my job and so depressed that if I continue on things are only going to get worse for me.I have good IT skills and some certs to go along with that.And I am using none of that in my job.I fear I m wasting my degree and skills that I possess.Only thing I want now is to get out honorably or get general discharge so I can do job in civilian side that I am passionate about.I worried about my mental health because of the situation I m in.I just can't concentrate on my job maybe coz I m so depressed that nothing interest me in my current mos.Trying to suck it up and waiting for ETS will definitely take a huge toll in my mental health.What do I do?
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COL R. Bruce Chisholm
Morning. I read your other responses and I hear you. I urge you to go to Behavioral Health and share your concerns. Start with sick call and get a referral or they may have walk in hours. You have the tools to fix this situation.
Two things: after retirement, I was a hiring manager and we used a panel to ask behavior based interview questions. We looked at your resume and asked about how you handled a problem you had encountered. If I asked a question about why you left the Army or how did you handle a stressful experience, what would be your best answer.
Second, (after finding Behaviorial Health and getting seen), change one thing in your day and see if breaking your routine changes your view. My last deployment, everyone in the Goup Headquarters did one event a day together. Yes, everyone. Specialist to Colonel would go to the MWR movie, Jepardy night, bingo. No excuses. We learned about each other and learned there was more to life than going back to a bunk and watching YouTube. Let me know your course of action. Status quo isn't the answer.
Two things: after retirement, I was a hiring manager and we used a panel to ask behavior based interview questions. We looked at your resume and asked about how you handled a problem you had encountered. If I asked a question about why you left the Army or how did you handle a stressful experience, what would be your best answer.
Second, (after finding Behaviorial Health and getting seen), change one thing in your day and see if breaking your routine changes your view. My last deployment, everyone in the Goup Headquarters did one event a day together. Yes, everyone. Specialist to Colonel would go to the MWR movie, Jepardy night, bingo. No excuses. We learned about each other and learned there was more to life than going back to a bunk and watching YouTube. Let me know your course of action. Status quo isn't the answer.
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Oh boy, haha. I already know I'm gonna have fun reading these comments lmao.
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There are many methods and options. However, most of those can and usually do end up back firing. Don't get caught up with a Dishonorable Discharge as it will haunt you the rest of your life by making it harder to find jobs. Your best bet is to suck it up for the rest of your contract and then just not reenlist. While waiting for your ETS, utilize your Chaplain. If it gets really bad, you can seek help from Mental Health. Normally, I would advise a Soldier against giving up, as a military career has a lot of benefits, and offers a lot of rewards, but a Soldier who is intent on getting out, just can't be persuaded otherwise, so all I can say is "good luck".
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I still have 4 years left.I am worried about my mental health as I am highly dissatisfied of my job and so depressed that only thing I want now is get general or honorable discharge.People tell me to do my contract but trying to suck it up is only going to make it worse.I am sure I will find peace when I actually get out and do the job I am passionate about.
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SSG Jason Penn
As I said, there are many ways. The best way for your future is to stick it out. That will give you an honorable discharge. I am advising you to see the Chaplain and possibly Mental Health to help you cope until you ETS. In the situation that you are explaining, the only other way that I can see, is to get a medical discharge based on mental health, but that has problems associated with it. First Mental Health would have to recommend the discharge, which means tons of evaluations, and even then, they might not see a problem that warrants discharge. Secondly, a mental health discharge also limits your job prospects; a lot of people wont hire you if they think that you might "flake out" on them. It isn't right, but it is a reality that it happens. Finally, getting out early creates another stigma in that people won't want to hire you because they will think that you might quit on them too. Look, I don't fully know or understand your situation, but under what you have shared so far, I can only advise you to do what is best for your future, and with the given information, that advice is to stick out your remaining time and seek out help that is available. The choice is ultimately up to you, but you have to weigh the consequences of your decision, whatever that decision may be.
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I get what you are saying.First of all I m not flaking out or failing to keep commitment,it just that I maybe unfit to serve.And isn't it against HIPPA policy to have your medical condition disclosed to employers or to anyone because all the veterans who got medical discharge,their career might have been ruined just because of depression or some condition.
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SSG Jason Penn
SPC (Join to see) - I didn't say that you were flaking out, I said that it happens to be a potential perception by future employers. Against HIPPA? No, why? Because getting out, you will get a DD214, and on that DD214, it will list the reason for discharge. It is not against HIPPA to categorize the reason for the discharge, only the details of why the categorization is listed. Future employers will need to see that DD214 before they hire you.
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Use your Chain of Command. and see a Chaplain. No sense in you beating around the bush if you do not want to be in the Military. Just keep your head in the right spot don't do anything brash. Start with your team chief and move up from there you can always ask to see the Higher ups by requesting open door policy but you must inform your Chain of Command of your intentions.
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How long are you being deployed for? Have you spoken to anyone there about it? The chaplain?
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You really should just because I will tell you the more you try to just suck it up the more it will get worst. I've been there. It's good to talk to someone about your options. I know some people will give you a hard time about it but you need to do what's right for you. I've already seen what it can do to some people and although I don't know you like that you are a brother/sister in arms.
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Some questions...how long have you been? Would you be up to reclassing or do you just want to get out? I understand how you feel. I just wanted to ask these questions before I attempted to give you any answers.
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Man I've been there. Don't feel ashamed to ask such a thing as this because everyone in this post has more than likely been where you are at some point or another. However there is many words of wisdom here as I have read. Don't do anything irrational to get out. I am getting out in 2 years myself. Why? Because it's just not my thing. I did not expect a career out of it, but that's ok. I am utilizing the Army as a stepping stone for my future and that is perfectly fine for anyone. You do what is best for you in the future and never look back. Make the best out of however longer you are in for and go from there. Just like SFC Jason Boyd mentioned use that final year or even earlier to get you a clear plan for your transition. Don't use up the rest of your time in here without a plan for after. Do constructive things when the time gap is closing and consider looking around for job prospects, get you a resume going as well as a Linkedin account. Think of the future and it will really pull your mind away from any troubles of now. Dude I have 2 years left and I'm already thinking ahead laying out a plan for the smoothest and succesful transition. No matter how bad it sucks in here, it will be a huge enhancement to your future because of what the resume says. I'm not bashing you or anything like that because man I have been there. I wanted out so freakin bad earlier in my arrival to my unit it was unreal. Don't let that get the best of you and cause you to make regrettable actions. Focus on your future for now and keep your eyes on the prize. Military is not for everyone, so if you want out it's better to finish this and get out earlier than later. Remember, do what is best for you, but do not abandon logic in your thoughts or actions. Think on it man.
What I am reading here gives me a sense of feeling we are not getting the whole story. Every thing posted ends with I just want to get out. What is driving your wanting to get out? What is driving your depression? Do you socialize with anyone it the unit? or are you a loaner? Something is driving you to want out until you figure that out your just putting yourself in a depression. So I Still say the only help we can give you with out the rest of the information is go to your chain of command and the chaplain and be willing to tell them what is driving you to want out. I don't believe we are getting that here.
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I have been highly dissatisfied and so depressed.If I try to suck it up and do my contract,it is only going to make it worse for me.
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Don't throw it all away man get the honorable. You have come too far, just finish your contract. Did you sign a 4yr or they get you for 6?
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