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Some people said it's Sir/Ma'am but some also say that it's Mr and Ms/Mrs
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Worked for several CW2s and finished my time as sr wrecker operator for a CW4. All were "Chief. "
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Warrant officers are addressed as Mr. or Ms. and their last name or “Chief and their last”.
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I never heard (or even heard of) a WO1 complain when addressed as "Chief", and certainly not any Warrant Officer above that. When in doubt, "Sir/Ma'am" works jut fine - even in general in you're unsure of someone's rank. Generally goes over better if you incorrectly address them with a higher-level title than a lower one, and they can inform you from there.
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CW4 Keith Dolliver
I personally hate being called Chief, however I rarely correct someone unless we actually work together on a day-to-day because I understand that it is a cultural norm (even though it is doctrinally wrong) and there is no disrespect intended.
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CW4 Keith Dolliver - I am so with you! I feel like chief is an informal way to call me buddy and I don’t like it.
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PO3 Jody Wangen
Chief- what i call my kid occasionally. we had a CWO4 when i was in in late 80-early 90s. i either called him Sir or Warrant.
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Mister or Sir when I was enlisted, when I am disappointed in one's performance or having to counsel as a Senior Warrant, it is still Mister, however as a terminal guy now, I use the officer rule of thumb and call them by their name.
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CW5 Jack Cardwell
By regulation Sir/Ma'am or Mr/Ms . Common use Chief for CW2 to CW5. WO1 I call Spot !
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If a CW2-5, Chief.
a WO1, Mr (Blank).
If speaking to one in a sentence, generally Sir/Ma'am.
If I can find them, that is.
a WO1, Mr (Blank).
If speaking to one in a sentence, generally Sir/Ma'am.
If I can find them, that is.
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Must be hard being an E8... making duty rosters and such... if you need a warrants assistance in that task you can probably find one doing relevant work on any BDE or higher staff.
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CW4 (Join to see) - I know, Chief. Just like I was with the crack about locating Warrant Officers. The truth is, I know exactly where to find them... just follow the smell of brewing coffee.
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Will Boyd When I attended the ‘services’ for an old acquaintance, his family members were amazed when I referred to Mr Rodarte!
WO or not, Issac (at times), or not, I never had a problem with addressing Mr Rodarte as “MR RODARTE”!
He is thusly remembered as Mr Rodarte!
Issac’s CIB was from his tour with the 3rd Infantry Division in Korea.
WO or not, Issac (at times), or not, I never had a problem with addressing Mr Rodarte as “MR RODARTE”!
He is thusly remembered as Mr Rodarte!
Issac’s CIB was from his tour with the 3rd Infantry Division in Korea.
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So for the people who do not understand the difference. a Commissioned officer dates back to the British military where one would PURCHASE a COMMISSION to lead men in battle, this of course goes back to the knighthood, the basic commission was a captain as he lead a mercenary company, who was then able to appoint lieutenants, who serve in lieu of... or when the captain is not around, the rank of colonel came form a captain who was in charge of a column of men (about 2000 troops). he would have a deputy or a lt. colonel, and of course generals were officers in charge of everything else. generally, no pun intended, generals were nobility. For instance in the revolutionary war General Cornwallis was also a duke.
One could be granted a WARRANT to serve in the Army, but mostly in the Royal Navy for a specific skill, these warrants were usually technical in nature like navigation, finance, or signal. You were not commissioned to lead men in battle as such you can not issue a DIRECT order. Nor were you in the "combat" chain of command.
The Non Commissioned officer or petty officer, is an officer without a commission, granted the authority to lead men in battle under the supervision of a commissioned officer, and can issue lawful orders as can a warrant officer. The rank of Sgt was the first rank granted to a "professional" soldier. The rank of corporal was the most junior NCO, and it was their job to enforce discipline (usually lashes), this is where we get the term corporal punishment. The term staff Sgt came from when the units lined up in formation and the staff Sgt would use a staff to set the lines.
A private was contracted with the captain as private citizen, to serve a term of service.
Prior to WWII their was only the rank of SGT major, that was above the rank of sgt and staff sgt. The First Sgt was a duty position and would be denoted by the traditional lozenge.
Generally a warrant officer in an infantry battalion would be called the "master gunner", and this is where we get the rank of Master sergeant, gunnery sergeant, and master gunnery sgt from today. Since it was customary to call a warrant officer chief, that is where the air force and navy ranks of chief petty officer and chief master sergeant come from.
When the pay grades of E 7/8/9 were instituted during WWII they were meant to replace warrant officers, but the only branch that followed through was the air force.
Sometime in the 1990's chief warrant officers were lateral promoted to commissioned officer, but they receive their commission from the president and not congress. I think is most important in SF and Aviation as pilots are supposed to be commissioned officers, and are in the "combat chain of command", and SF is well SF. Other specialties like admin and finance, i don't think it matters much.
One could be granted a WARRANT to serve in the Army, but mostly in the Royal Navy for a specific skill, these warrants were usually technical in nature like navigation, finance, or signal. You were not commissioned to lead men in battle as such you can not issue a DIRECT order. Nor were you in the "combat" chain of command.
The Non Commissioned officer or petty officer, is an officer without a commission, granted the authority to lead men in battle under the supervision of a commissioned officer, and can issue lawful orders as can a warrant officer. The rank of Sgt was the first rank granted to a "professional" soldier. The rank of corporal was the most junior NCO, and it was their job to enforce discipline (usually lashes), this is where we get the term corporal punishment. The term staff Sgt came from when the units lined up in formation and the staff Sgt would use a staff to set the lines.
A private was contracted with the captain as private citizen, to serve a term of service.
Prior to WWII their was only the rank of SGT major, that was above the rank of sgt and staff sgt. The First Sgt was a duty position and would be denoted by the traditional lozenge.
Generally a warrant officer in an infantry battalion would be called the "master gunner", and this is where we get the rank of Master sergeant, gunnery sergeant, and master gunnery sgt from today. Since it was customary to call a warrant officer chief, that is where the air force and navy ranks of chief petty officer and chief master sergeant come from.
When the pay grades of E 7/8/9 were instituted during WWII they were meant to replace warrant officers, but the only branch that followed through was the air force.
Sometime in the 1990's chief warrant officers were lateral promoted to commissioned officer, but they receive their commission from the president and not congress. I think is most important in SF and Aviation as pilots are supposed to be commissioned officers, and are in the "combat chain of command", and SF is well SF. Other specialties like admin and finance, i don't think it matters much.
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SPC Chris Ison
Yes but it was a warrant rank not an enlisted grade.
That is why warrant officers are warrant officer and chief warrant officer.
Naval "rates" are form back in the seafaring age, where the "1st class petty officer" was the first mate, second class was the second mate, etc.
Most sailors on a ship in the age of sail were seaman, who like privates, were contracted for a single cruise.
If you look here:
https://www.federalpay.org/military/history
You will see the highest enlisted grade is E-7. Which was created in WWII.
That is why warrant officers are warrant officer and chief warrant officer.
Naval "rates" are form back in the seafaring age, where the "1st class petty officer" was the first mate, second class was the second mate, etc.
Most sailors on a ship in the age of sail were seaman, who like privates, were contracted for a single cruise.
If you look here:
https://www.federalpay.org/military/history
You will see the highest enlisted grade is E-7. Which was created in WWII.
Historical Military Pay Charts from 1949 to 2017
Military Pay Charts from 1949 to 2017
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