How do you feel about veterans or Soldiers criticizing our President?

<p>Military (general):<br><br>I, (<i>NAME</i>), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God. <br><br>National Guard (Army, Air):<br><br>I, (<i>NAME</i>), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the State of (<i>STATE NAME</i>) against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the Governor of (<i>STATE NAME</i>) and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to law and regulations. So help me God. <br><br><br>To make the statement as you did, MSG, "We all took an oath and we need to live by that." -<br><br>It is NOT an oath of silence. It is one to support and defend the Constitution and the nation (and/or states) against foreign and domestic enemies, and conform to the UCMJ. <br><br>As I pointed out earlier, the UCMJ and DOD have specific regulations as to how a service member may conduct him or herself while on duty, in uniform, or representing themselves AS a military member. At NO point is there a requirement for silence.<br><br>Help me understand your perspective...</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

<p>I am simply saying that your opinion should not be stated one way or the other in a public forum.&nbsp; JAG puts out statements every election cycle stating as a uniformed member you may not attend political functions or participate in rallies for or against.&nbsp; that is what I am meaning by they need to be kept to yourself while you are representing the military in any forum.</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Now if you are in civilian clothing and can not be readily identified as having military affiliation then by all means voice your opinion.&nbsp; I personally like to hear both sides of a discussion.&nbsp; I like how you posted the oath and I hope all who took it will stand by it.&nbsp; Thanks for the discussion.</p>

It would seem, then, that JAG is violating DOD policy (I posted the pertinent portion in response to an earlier post in this thread). Supporting and upholding MUST mean exercising. I agree that whatever is said should not be inflammatory or threatening, and definitely not in uniform or in any official capacity. Service members have the right to dislike, disapprove of, or disagree with the CiC. How does one handle a problem with their&nbsp;PL or PS? They gotta say something to someone, right? Same thing here. So long as they are not stirring up a mutiny or rebellion (in an unconstitutional manner), then I say let'em speak, according to the allowances of regulations.

1SG, Obama is doing the same thing you accuse Bush of. &nbsp;I dislike a man who would relieve an officer of command that was not going to stand down while an Ambassador HE nominated was being murdered. &nbsp;I also dislike his pick of a man who tells others they can disregard laws they do not agree with as&nbsp;<a class="spell" href="https://www.google.com/search?espv=210&amp;es_sm=122&amp;q=Attorney&amp;spell=1&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=R9QTU7riO6iQyAGKi4HgAQ&amp;ved=0CCcQvwUoAA" style="font-size: medium; color: rgb(102, 0, 153); font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><b><i>Attorney</i></b></a>&nbsp;General. &nbsp;<br>So, since we got that out of the way, how is the weather in Massachusetts? &nbsp;How do you think BC will do next year in football?&nbsp;

I have the utmost respect to the office of President of the United States of America, but not to the man who now occupies the seat in the Oval Office. &nbsp;He took an oath like all of us in this organization and he has done more to discredit his oath of office than all of us put together or any president before him. &nbsp;When a sitting president circumvents the document he swore to protect and uphold, then he becomes an enemy of the people and of the nation he is supposed to protect, not commit treason to sell us down the river to the new world order. &nbsp;I understand the dilemma a soldier or service member has when in the service and respect the position to keep their thoughts private. &nbsp;That is the prudent thing to do. &nbsp;But at some point in the future, service members may be forced to support this despotic regime or stand up against it to preserve the republic. &nbsp;I know if I were in uniform, my oath would take presidence.<div><br></div>

Executives orders are one thing, enacdting law or changing law is expressly forbidden by the Constitution. &nbsp;We can no longer blame Bush for the issues in our nation now. &nbsp;W did not create a divide that exists between races and groups like they do today. &nbsp;W did not weaken our military to the point where our enemies scoff at us knowing our president will do nothing. &nbsp;This POTUS has been caught in more lies and blamed more people than any president I have seen or studied in my life time and I am a lot older than you are a obviously more well read and researched. &nbsp;I do not give much credence to the opinions of liberals or lovers of the communist who resides in the oval office today. &nbsp;I fought communist and have friend's names on that wall in DC who died fighting communists and having him introduce his Marxist philosophy in this country is a slap in the face of all who have died fighting that evil philosophy. &nbsp;I have seen first hand what they did to dissenters and it sickens the strongest stomachs and I will not sit idly by and watch that happen here. &nbsp;Those who continue to support the current POTUS after all he has done to harm this great nation should be held in the same contempt the majority of Americans now hold for &nbsp;him. &nbsp;A recent poll showed 71% of those who voted for him are now sorry they did. &nbsp;That is telling.

Why did you serve? &nbsp;If you cannot see what is happening in this country today, you are blind and I feel sorry for you. &nbsp;You took the same oath I did and it appears you support a protege of Saul Alinski and Bill Ayers, both avowed communists and Ayers is a personal friend of POTUS, rather that live up to the oath of defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. You like a man who said the Constitution has outlived its usefulness and stands in the way of him really being able to do something. &nbsp;That something is destroy the republic and he has done a good job of it. &nbsp;I have see first hand what you only read about and what you read is biased. &nbsp;But, nothing new from Cal. &nbsp;The SDS and other radical communist groups of the 60s got their start there and have gained power from a dumbed down electorate.

Yeah, right there with all the weapons of mass destruction we found in Iraq

SFC Austin,

Thats poor left-wing talking point and I will illustrate why.

1. Chemical weapons were used by both sides in the Iran-Iraq War. No, we did not supply Iraq with them.

2. In 1986 chemical weapons were used against the Kurdish village of Halabja. In 1988 a more extensive campaign resulting in about 50,000 Kurds were killed. Yes, I lived next to a Kurdish woman who was gassed as a child, lost most her family.

3. EVERY intelligence estimate made said, SH had Chem/Bio weapons and seeking Nuclear weapons. Also the Israel AF went to the trouble to bomb Iraq's nuclear reactor.

4. 16 UN resolutions, Saddam violated them all.

5. After the war, Iraqi Army generals claimed that they genuinely believed Iraq had a Bio/Chem weapons and were going to use them.

6. During 2003 we had intell that Iraqi Chem weapons stockpiles were transported to Syria, The Assad regime has also used chemical weapons in their civil war. Weather they are of Syrian or Iraqi origin is unknown.

7. I would recommend reading the book by Mahdi Obeidi, called "The Bomb in My Garden: The Secrets of Saddam's Nuclear Mastermind. This gent was an Iraqi scientist…..working on SH's nuclear program.

IMHO I think SH was trying to ride a fine line between bluffing his neighbors and buying time to eventually get a WMD capability. The world called his bluff.

The left likes this talking point because the low-information citizen will not look past it. As the main-stream media and liberal politicians keep using it.

Was it Joseph Gobbles who said,"if you repeat a lie enough it becomes the truth?"

I'm all for free speech, and freedom of press. But when is enough, enough?<br>

I am looking forward personally to volunteer to be a member of the firing squad, if there is a trial and ultimate conviction of the Marxist in the White House for Treason. &nbsp;There is too much that has been done in rendering aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States (Fast &amp; Furious; Muslim Brotherhood in Libya, Egypt and Syria; and Benghazi to name a few). &nbsp;But that will never happen, as Congress does not have the balls to do it, and the Attorney General and the Justice Department are all on their knees in service of the Traitor. &nbsp;The AG and DOJ will go after anyone, including us, if we try to bring such charges against the traitor, and defend him if a Governor or State Legislature tries to bring Charges against that traitor.

Well said, son......well said.<br>

personally I think we owe all public officials a little respect. I tend to doubt that any solder/veteran trained by the us military is currently targeting any official. If they were that official would now be dead.

Respect must be earned and when the people we elect do not support the oath of office they took, then they are not worthy of respect. &nbsp;

As stated in my response to the original question, while veterans have earned their voice, I personally feel it should remain respectful. That is just something that should come by way of serving. There are ways to approach a conversation that do not require either bashing or name calling. Sorry to say the moment someone starts the with name calling I pretty much stop listening. Seeing as the question was asked multiple times in here, this goes for President Obama, former President Bush or anyone who has or will sit behind the desk in the oval office.