Posted on Jan 2, 2014
CPL Paul B.
190K
5.95K
1.75K
590
574
16
Download
Recently I've been hearing countless remarks, and seeing posts from soldiers and veterans alike. Down talking our commander in chief. How do you feel about this? Should this be allowed within our ranks? Does freedom of speech really play a part?<br><br>
Posted in these groups: Images Barack ObamaRespect  logo Respect
Edited 12 y ago
Avatar feed
Responses: 929
Lt Col Leslie Bryant
1
1
0
I strongly believe that active duty military should be professional, focused on duty to country, remain apolitical and stay out of politics! In Latin America, military do not vote. Having been a hostage for 6 months each as a child in the 1970s in military coupes in Peru and Libya under Ghaddafi, I chose military service in hopes of insuring no American would ever be held hostage. I chose not to vote, remained apolitical and out of politics during 28 years of USAF military service and supported every Commander in Chief. I think what is now problematic is that many Generals are not willing to fade into the night after retirement but feel they need to be politically active. I am opposed to that and wished they would just quietly retire. As the Pentagon and Generals become more political, I am now triggered by comments these individuals make which often aren't necessary or welcome and feel the need to often speak out against them. Frankly if you couldn't say it in the military then why say it now! Do we have freedom of speech? Yes, active duty and retired military have freedom of speech and are entitled to freedom of speech! But should they use it is another matter!
(1)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
MSgt Thomas O'Rourke
1
1
0
We must respect the office even if we detest the person occupying it at the time. The Iraq and Afghanistan withdrawals were a kick in the teeth for many of us but we have to serve this nation no matter what.
(1)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
CA Jonathan Mann
1
1
0
Whether it is Biden or Trump, or previous presidents, they are all open to criticism, although there is an unwritten rule that upper echelon flag officers are to remain neutral. Those who do not will suffer the same fate as General Douglas MacArthur who clashed with Truman, even though he was right.
(1)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
CA Jonathan Mann
1
1
0
Whether it is Biden or Trump, or previous presidents, they are all open to criticism, although there is an unwritten rule that upper echelon flag officers are to remain neutral. Those who do not will suffer the same fate as General Douglas MacArthur who clashed with Truman, even though he was right.
(1)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
LCDR Roger Hoover
1
1
0
Being part of the solution not part of the problem is a good tactic. When criticizing, be specific to the points of disagreement and when possible, provide a rational solution. There is nothing wrong with having a different point of view and good leaders welcome constructive input on all sides. This technique is essential when dealing with a poor leader that holds an office such as the President. The office is respected and protected while the person is challenged and possibly exposed. People can always be replaced however not the integrity of the office.
(1)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
SPC Jennifer Clever
1
1
0
Soldiers no. Veterans yes. If the service member is still on active duty, Reserve or national guard they should not be. He is their Commander in Chief. Veterans however can say whatever they like. That is, after all, the point of serving to protect and defend the Constitution. That is my right. Did anyone question it when there was a different President?
(1)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
CPT Robert Hampton
1
1
0
I was/am a Signal Officer, a DAC Education and Training Officer, and a computer systems administrator. I have served 33 years in/with the army. One of my last duties was systems security for a 400+ user network. My post suffered over 20,000 intrusions into our computer systems monthly before I retired. I studied communism and communist insurgency. My commanders did not want my opinion, they wanted factual assessments.

The evidence of vote fraud is overwhelming. No commander I ever worked for wanted "yes men," they wanted good factual advice. If there was massive vote fraud that resulted in a usurper / pretender in a command position, do we just roll over and acquiesce?

Do we put our heads down and ignore the evidence? Do we just follow orders?

We are obligated to follow only legal orders. Much is changing in the military in past 20 years. Do we go to training and accept whatever is presented or do we think about what is correct versus a political "party line?"

MG McInerney, former COS of the Air Force, and MG Flynn, the chief security officer for the army, as well as CIA and other whistle blowers have provided sound evidence of fraud. We we just polish our brass and ignore it?

When Bill Clinton approved the sale of missile guidance technology to Red China, I asked in a staff meeting what we officers should do? Not one officer had an affirmative course of action. It appears to have only gotten worse. We see the military being weakened almost daily. Is there any who remember their oath to defend the constitution?
Are we following a legally installed government?

Want , need evidence of fraud? Take the time to view these videos at the links below. Also be sure to view D’Souza’s excellent documentary, “2,000 Mules.”

The incontrovertible evidence is in the last 30 minutes of “Absolute Proof” in which intrusions into the automated voting machines are tracked by date, time, IP address, MAC address, method of intrusion, and action accomplished (which was switching Trump votes to Biden or adding Biden votes).

Stolen elections have consequences. As long as we continue with computerized voting machines and mail out/in ballots our voting system is broken.

The BIG question is why neither the Supreme Court nor Congress are hearing the evidence and nullifying Electoral votes from states with fraudulent voting.

This refusal to act on behalf of citizens is one of the grievances against King George III listed in our Declaration of Independence.

By the standard of the Declaration, both Congress and the Court are in a state of tyranny. Do we remain mute and use the Eichmann defense, "I vas only following orders." This did not work at Nürnberg. Will it work here in the future?

http://www.wvwtv.com/proof

https://www.worldviewweekend.com/tv/video/mike-lindell-presents-absolutely-9-0
(1)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales
1
1
0
I expect you to honor your oath as a military member.. as a retiree, it's none of my business. It's a constitutional right as a civilian to criticize whom I want regardless of others' tears!! This is the problem nowadays, people worrying about what others are saying and then crying when they themselves are put on the spot for being hypocrites.
(1)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
SGT Erick Holmes
1
1
0
We have to understand that we all have the to free speech. Yes Soliders, Veterans, Airmen, Sailors, and Marines have right to disagree with the commander in chief. But, we have to do it in a way where are not violating that free speech. If we are not violating that then its ok. If we follow the rules on posting and social media part then its fine. Once you cross that line then you have no choice to take it to whoever it needs to be taken too.
(1)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
PO3 John Fahrer
1
1
0
As a 100% service connected disabled vet, I am deeply ashamed of some of the ways our government is being run. I feel the Office of the President deserves respect. Those in uniform should always be honnorable. If anyone in the Service is disrespectful to those in the chain of command they need to be retrained .
(1)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small

Join nearly 2 million former and current members of the US military, just like you.

close