Posted on Jan 2, 2014
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Recently I've been hearing countless remarks, and seeing posts from soldiers and veterans alike. Down talking our commander in chief. How do you feel about this? Should this be allowed within our ranks? Does freedom of speech really play a part?<br><br>
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Barack Obama Respect
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We all have our respective opinions of our county's leaders, both good and bad. However, as members of the military, I feel that respect should be publicly displayed toward the office of the President, regardless of whoever happens to be our Commander-In-Chief. "Respect" should be the key word here.
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SGT Steven Bolander
CPO Mark Gallup - Again, it's the OFFICE of the President that we should respect, not necessarily the person that happens to be in that office. Personally, I have no respect whatsoever for Biden. (In my opinion, he has not only failed in so many ways to fulfill his obligations as President, but he's also a crook.)
And as an example of my point here, do you think those two Marines who salute Biden when he stumbles onto or off of Marine One really have any actual respect for him? My guess is probably no. However, they present their salutes as their duty and as their respect for the office of the President.
And as an example of my point here, do you think those two Marines who salute Biden when he stumbles onto or off of Marine One really have any actual respect for him? My guess is probably no. However, they present their salutes as their duty and as their respect for the office of the President.
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SGT Steven Bolander
CPO Mark Gallup - Got it. And I finally figured out what it meant after I looked it up.
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Veterans are just that Veterans, webm have no obligation to restrict our 1st amendment rights to any administration. If Gen. Miley can undermined the President, well I guess that speaks for itself doesn't it? What's good for the goose, is good for the gander.
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For better or worse, POTUS gets a portrait hung in every orderly room and VA center because he's the boss of the military. Still, in private conversation anyone can criticize; even old Don defends the First Amendment Right to free speech, and loudly! But threatening the Pres is illegal for anyone under US jurisdiction, and that includes putting his likeness on a target, or other implied threats. Law enforcement is all over that issue. "A complaining 'army' is a happy army" is often said, but within the limits, huh? I'll bet Caeser and Napoleon dealt with that issue tolerantly, for that reason.
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If you aed on active duty, no! You can not make remarks about the Commander in Chief, no matter how screwed up you think they are.
Having said that, prior military and veterans has that freedom of speech to speak their minds about the actions of the President and members of Congress or any political position.
Having said that, prior military and veterans has that freedom of speech to speak their minds about the actions of the President and members of Congress or any political position.
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When we have "woke" "CRT" oriented flag generals and a commander in chief, brain dead as Biden, then the ranks will sense the environment being dangerously close to revolt. We use to think our military was absent from political actions but Austin/Milley and other flag officers have contributed to the lack of discipline now evident in the military. This sitting around a fire and singing Kum bi ah has left our military without a mission and priority to be mission ready. Thank the Commander in Chief; Milley; and Austin for this demise.
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SPC Michael Tierney - That so called draft dodger made the strongest military in decades little man. Learn wtf is real before you start spouting off stupid bullshit like that.
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SPC Michael Tierney
SGT (Join to see) - That is bullshit! Flat out.Big man. Don Trump told you he made a strong military but he did nothing but talk. And fools listen to him and believe the liar.
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SPC Michael Tierney - Troll. There appears to be one in every post, but hey, that's the internet for you.
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I will add one thing more, and will leave it at that,….. when Mr. Biden ordered our troops and personnel out of Afghanistan in the way he did, while leaving BILLIONS of dollars of our equipment and cash behind, not to mention American citizens and those afghan nationals who helped and supported us, and cost us the lives of 13 of our finest to lose their lives, calling the “evacuation” (retreat) a success, all I have found in him, is disgust. Hence a Complete lack of respect for him, and his entire administration.
That’s my piece. God save us all
That’s my piece. God save us all
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SPC Michael Tierney
Well Hal, you might remember that Don pulled 75% of the soldiers out when he made the deal with the Taliban to get out in May. You might also remember that he did not remove 75% of the equipment. He left it there. No US cash was left behind and we still have billions of Afghan cash that has been confiscated. Also Iraqi and Iranian. This isn't our money, it is theirs. They just made the mistake of leaving it in the US so we could take it. Who knows if it will ever be repatriated? As for those US citizens, what the hell were they doing there after Don agreed to pull out by May 1? Some said they wanted to "visit" their family. Were they nuts? Don had made a commitment to be out by May 1. He made the commitment but never had a plan. Typical of his policies. The same with the people who helped us. If you knew a tornado was headed toward your house, would you just sit in the kitchen and wait for it? Neither would I. Neither should they.
As for his administration, maybe you have read about the Chips and Science Act? In the coming years that should dramatically affect the worlds chip development in favor of the US rather than Taiwan or China. How many presidents have promised and infrastructure bill? Practically all of them but none delivered until Joe. Are these "perfect" bills? Of course not. I am sure there is plenty of pork in both. But they are going to change the face of our roads, bridges, communication, chip manufacturing, defense systems, cars.....And, perhaps best of all, no tax cuts for the top 1%.
As for his administration, maybe you have read about the Chips and Science Act? In the coming years that should dramatically affect the worlds chip development in favor of the US rather than Taiwan or China. How many presidents have promised and infrastructure bill? Practically all of them but none delivered until Joe. Are these "perfect" bills? Of course not. I am sure there is plenty of pork in both. But they are going to change the face of our roads, bridges, communication, chip manufacturing, defense systems, cars.....And, perhaps best of all, no tax cuts for the top 1%.
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From day one when I enlisted, yes, like everyone else I swore an oath to uphold and defend our country. To me, this included Respecting… the office of the president, which I do. BUT… it never says that respecting the individual Holding said office is a requirement. So, that being said, my respect has been, and always Will be, to the OFFICE, that does not mean that I Must respect the individual!
I will respect the position you hold, but Not necessarily You, unless you have shown me that you have Earned that respect.
The Current office holder lost My respect Long before he got elected to the highest seat in office in this country. He’d Might get a Yessir or Yesmam out of me, but most likely not.
Respect is Earned, not Given or commanded! Most who have held any time in service know and understand this
I will respect the position you hold, but Not necessarily You, unless you have shown me that you have Earned that respect.
The Current office holder lost My respect Long before he got elected to the highest seat in office in this country. He’d Might get a Yessir or Yesmam out of me, but most likely not.
Respect is Earned, not Given or commanded! Most who have held any time in service know and understand this
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I am thinking the military should start having civic classes for all those whose serve. After reading many remarks it is safe to say lessons need to be learned. I personally served under the US Constitution and its values.
I retired with 31 years and 9 months and little changed. Most military policies come from the pentagon not the White House.
I retired with 31 years and 9 months and little changed. Most military policies come from the pentagon not the White House.
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Any person wearing a uniform and serving their country have the right to free speech , however they need to have the professionalism to keep opinions about the HMFIC away from the media all together. jokes are funny and sometimes so true. We need to show solidarity to our country and it's leaders especially when wearing the uniform. Difference of opinion keeps us healthy and in check. Hate destroys our country and its foundations If you don't support your country maybe try a different one for a while see how that works for you.
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Although freedom of speech applies of the is no reference to or shown uniform. It should not happen due to the oath taken. Civilians can do what they like until it becomes a legal issue or threats are made...
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