Posted on Jan 2, 2014
CPL Paul B.
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Recently I've been hearing countless remarks, and seeing posts from soldiers and veterans alike. Down talking our commander in chief. How do you feel about this? Should this be allowed within our ranks? Does freedom of speech really play a part?<br><br>
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Sgt Brett Holdeman
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As veterans we certainly have earned that right, especially when so many politicians make promises then never seem to follow through on them once elected. I always felt, as a Marine and Nat'l Guardsman, you respected the chain-of-command else good order and discipline suffer.
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SGT Erick Holmes
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It's like any other job in the world. We all don't like our boss from time to time. Most if not all will talk sh$% about our boss with our co-workers and friends have a good laugh and go back to work and continue to stay on the good side of our bosses. It becomes a problem when you take it beyond sh%$ talking and when you act on it thats a problem.
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SrA Richard Atwood
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Common sense. If you have a dud in the WH like there is currently, he should be removed and replaced with someone NOT destroying the nation. Complaints should be made to your Congressman. As an American we need someone to support not only the civilian population, but the military as well. What I have seen of the Biden administration is a curse to our history and current function as one of the greatest countries... which we used to be, but has gone to shit.
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SSG William Hull
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In uniform and out of uniform makes all the difference. As a member of the armed forces you have taken an oath to follow the orders of those in position above you and specifically the commander in chief. In uniform or when representing yourself as a member of the armed forces you violate the UCMJ when you demean or disrespect any superior including the CIC. Representing yourself out of uniform as a private citizen you have the right to voice your opinion.
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SGT Mark Moen
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1st Amendment, president is a politician. The president is not the Commander in Chief 24/7, only when the Constitution provides for such and this has been long abused as much as the military in foreign wars. James Madison warned of such and General Eisenhower warned of the military industrial complex. Where are the Article 1, Section 8, Clause 16 Commissioned officers who have duties to the people and the militia? Our military is being decimated by the Article 2, the President.
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1SG Mark Colomb
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Disagreement does not equal disloyalty. Every American citizen, Military, Veteran, or private person has the right, no the responsibility, to voice their grievances with the duly elected government. This includes the President.

Having said that ther must be a measure of civil discourse in disagreeing. Getting on social media and blasting anyone with vulgar, unsubstantiated statements is prejudicial to the good order and discip,Inc of the armed services.
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MSgt Mason Manner
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As a retired member I have never given up my right to express my opinions but that also means not using any military titles or refusing lawful orders. In our oath we swear to PROTECT AND DEFEND THE US CONSTITUTION. BEING A MINDLESSLY IGNORANT MILITARY MEMBER IS UNAMERICAN.
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SPC Richard White
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Veterans are entitled to their opinion. However active duty personnel should not be criticizing the POTUS AS THEY ARE UNDER OATH
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SSG Unit Supply Specialist
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Former military personnel (who no longer fall under UCMJ) have the same First Amendment right of free speech as anyone else. They've earned the right to either praise or criticize the President as they see fit. They've also earned the right for everyone else to do the same. As for current military personnel they don't necessarily have that same right. For example, officers are specifically forbidden under Article 88 of the UCMJ to criticize the President, members of Congress, state governors and various other government officials. It gets into a gray area with enlisted personnel. However in my experience the commands have frowned upon bashing the commander in chief as servicemembers represent whatever branch they serve in. The guidance I've always been given and would recommend to servicemembers is that if you wish to publicly state your disapproval of a government official or policy then make sure you're representing yourself individually when doing so and not as a member of the armed forces.

Here's something that a sergeant from the legal office where I was once stationed put it:
John Doe, a resident of Washington, DC can say for example that the President is an idiot.
PVT John Doe of the United States Army cant.

Following that standard should keep military personnel out of trouble when speaking publicly about controversial policies and politicians.
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PO2 Michael Titus
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OF COURSE, vets can criticize this bozo!! maybe RallyPoint has too many whiny libtards??
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