Posted on Jan 2, 2014
CPL Paul B.
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Recently I've been hearing countless remarks, and seeing posts from soldiers and veterans alike. Down talking our commander in chief. How do you feel about this? Should this be allowed within our ranks? Does freedom of speech really play a part?<br><br>
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SN Nicola Poitras
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I have always said, respect the office, not necessarily the man. POTUS, and our CIC, is an office. It may be held by a person, but that person does NOT always automatically get my respect. I always have, and always will defend the office, but I will never stand up for some of the BS that the people in that office have done. Just because I respect the office, does not mean I will let the person in that office get away with horse sh*t. I have the right, and the morale obligation to vote, and I exercise that right, religiously.
Get rid of the BS, and give us a POTUS we can stand behind, and be proud of again. That is my Christmas wish.
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Maj Air Force Spectrum Management Office Deputy Division Chief
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Should it be allowed - yes absolutely; that is your right. If you are a vet then by all means you have earned the right to complain about any thing you like. However if you are active, guard, or reserves, and you choose to voice your opinion while in uniform, then you are opening yourself up to all kinds issues, especially if you are in public and in uniform. I advised those who are with me or in under my command, it's just easier to "smile and wave", then having to explain yourself to those in your chain of command. I am not saying you can't voice your opinion, because you can - but there is also a real chance that you will find yourself in a sticky situation. It is better to follow my mothers advice and not talk about money, religion, or politic when in public, and I would add: avoid those subjects while in uniform also.
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PO1 Christopher Gómez
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While active duty are limited in what they can say, veterans are not. We fought for the rights guaranteed by our Constitution and that includes freedom of speech under the First Amendment.
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MAJ Psychological Operations
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I have also worn the uniform during several presidential terms. During each, I was invariably approached (usually at the gas station or grocery store) and asked "What do you think about ____?" (last name of current president). Being in uniform, I would simply reply, "He's our commander in chief, and our job is to support our commanders." No matter how I might feel about who's in office, in uniform I am more than my personal political beliefs.

With Obama and Trump, whenever I heard Soldiers or peers refer to them by their last name, I would politely remind them, "It's 'the president' ." Again, this would be when we're on duty and/or in uniform. I might think the guy is a total as shat, but my troops should never know it. As for President Biden, almost no one even mentions the guy!
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As for veterans criticizing the president? Anything goes! They've earned that right and are no longer in uniform.
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SFC Clifford Brewer
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Reverse question. How do you feel about a President criticizing deceased soldiers, active duty, retired, veterans gold star families and downgrading or degrading women
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SFC Clifford Brewer
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No.. each of us passed and presented raised there hand to defend the constitution and if a soldier step out of line and talk down on your CC he or she should get some type of UMCJ action brought against them.. do a soldier get punished for talking down on his or her Commander, CSM, 1 SGT or anyone else.. I think that shows how mature that soldier is and if the Command let it go on means they like shit filtering around. But you and I know there are bad people in all military.. that bring garbage into the service. I remember having a few bad soldiers in my section and it stressful to have to deal with the haters and racist. With this generation of soldiers freedom of speech is in the ranks.
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Sgt Joseph Addario
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as an enlisted nco i followed orders as was required. that does not mean i agree with them. As a citizen i have the right to disagree with elected government as i see fit. this is what we fought for. in my opinion we have not had a true commander in chef since Trump. Obama was a lost cause. Biden is corrupt and against everything we as the the USA stand for. He spits on the graves of those that gave it all.
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LTC Lance Headrick
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I think the Law and Regulation is clear. If you are Active Duty and representing yourself as such while making statement against "Officers appointed over me and the President of the United States" will subject you to UCMJ. If you are a retired officer the same in most cases. Hatch Act stuff.

Veterans of another stripe? It is bad taste, but within their rights? (meaning not incitement) Who cares.
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CSM Thomas McGarry
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Gee I wonder if you were this concerned with this issue when Donald Trump was President? Certainly while in uniform and operating in an official capacity one's personal opinion of our current President has no place in the conversation, that being said at other times, soldiers have not given up their First Amendment Constitutional Rights and are freely allowed to express their opinions.
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MSG(P) Brigade S4 Logistics Ncoic
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The question is actually two questions in one! as a service member you should not openly advocate for any political issue, or office holder in public while in uniform. Additional on official duties or actions should be nonpartisan regardless of your personal opinion or feels! As it comes to veteran's they have total freedom to express themselves since they are no longer in or under the control of military authority!
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