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<p>SPC Buck,</p><p><br></p><p>When I served back in the 80's and early 90's we were entitled to our political views, and like what many senior officers and NCO's have stated, as long as we didn't advocate violence or the remarks were disrespectful in nature, and we didn't participate in political events in uniform or while on duty, we were entitled to those. However this admin. has what I concider declared war on the military. Senior NCO's and Officers being purged from the military for failure to tow the company rope, Christian values and the practice of those religious beliefs being attacked on military installations, briefing members of the military that Christians, conservative political groups are extremists. If this isn't bad enough lets attack the pay raises of active duty military, cut education benefits, cut hazardous duty pay, close commissaries, ban smoking on all installations. Then to put the icing on the cake, lets go after the benefits we promised out vets. and retirees, cutting Tri-care coverage, increasing the cost of Tri-Care to family members, cutting their promised retirement pensions, a VA that couldn't fix a dog, let alone provide adequate care to a disabled vet, homeless rate of U.S. vets. returning from Iraq/Afghanistan through the roof. These are facts that can't be argued, and what it stinks of is his Salalinski Rules for Radicals, that if you want to fundamentally transform something you squeeze it from the top, squeeze it from the bottom until it implodes like a pimple. So then one has to ask, why is he doing this to the military? Is it true that he is a member of the Muslem Brotherhood as indicated by the conservative folks in Egypt (we know he has had meetings with this group at the White House on several occasions and they refuse to release the nature of those meetings under FOIA, why?) Is he doing this to turn the military on the American people? No body knows, what I do know he is abusing the Constitution and people including senior military officers are afraid to arrest him or impeach him. Could it be that NSA has much dirt on our Supreme Court Justices, Senators, Representatives, and Senior Military Officers. This surly isn't my grandfathers America sir!!!!</p>
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SSgt Brian Newton
<p>Sgt Darr.</p><p><br></p><p>Appreciate the feedback, you can only go off what is in print, what these well respected officers are saying in the media, and the word of people that are serving on active duty are saying. 1+1+1=3 but your correct if it is disinformation, then there is a lot of disinformation, but I don't see any transperancy from the administration, nor do I hear them pushing this stuff back.</p><p><br></p><p>Brian</p>
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SGT Jerokiah Darr
Spc. Martin:<div><br></div><div>The issue is our government's agenda under the current administration (although it has always had an agenda). What is really going on will never be as advertised. That is why politics is associated with negative connotations. A facade of lies or partial truths are poured into the media. That is what we hear.</div><div><br></div><div>The article I posted may even have credibility issues, but it too has information that is common knowledge, such as the POTUS' anti-Israeli position. An ally we have support since it became a country.</div><div><br></div><div>SSgt. Newton:</div><div><br></div><div>Unfortunately, what is printed, published or recorded is all the further any type of research goes for the general public. There will always be theories surrounding an official or policy. It is our nature to be skeptical of anything that disrupts our lifestyle.</div><div><br></div><div>Discussion such as this however, creates an awareness that inspires change. We the people will not allow our liberties to be taken without a fight!</div>
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SSgt Brian Newton
<p>Spc. Martain</p><p><br></p><p>Thank you for your service and I couldn't agree more with your post. And just for the record, I have and never will wish bad will on any President of this country, personally I would love to sit down with President Obama and have a beer. I just want people to open their eyes to the direction this country is changing and being pushed to. Like you said it is in our nature to be skeptical, and on top of that we tend to be more analytical than the average person. Like you said this discussion is to open peoples eyes to a possible problems.</p><p><br></p><p>Booh Rah Soldier!!</p><p><br></p><p>Brian</p>
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Support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC, remember that little part? The current Resident is a traitor to this nation and it is our DUTY to step in and stop it.
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Personally, I don't think it is the wisest decision for people that wear a military uniform to bash the President, regardless of who is in office. He is our Commander in Chief and no matter what, you have to respect the rank. What you think of the person holding the position is your personal opinion up until the moment you PUBLICLY blast that person. In the Army I have seen Soldiers be punished because they blasted or called out of name their 1SG or Commander or made threatening posts about them on social media. Why not the same penalty for disrespecting the Commander in Chief?? It is about respect at the end of the day, if you disagree with the decisions made by whoever is in office, being a service member, you shouldn't publicly disagree.
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You need to answer this or you are a hypocrite, you feel me now? It is relevant and pertinent.
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SGT Michael McMahon
SSG, by the sounds of your tone, you will blindly do whatever the President says! Would you open fire on civilians, if ordered by the President? <div><br>The Commander-in-chief, is a piece of crap politician, and all of them, since the last of the founding fathers served, are not caring about the military or the civilians, but about the absolute power they perceive to have over them. And WE THE PEOPLE, need to amend the Constitution to dilute this power over the military, and transfer it to the Governors of the 50 states, where more common sense is housed and it will be harder to abuse the military or potentially use it to abuse the citizens and States, as with Obama's undermining of the Posse Comitatus Act, he could use the Military on the Citizens and the States, that refuse to follow his unconstitutional directives. </div><div><br></div><div>Obama's actions are a mirror of the actions in the rise of Hitler, who at first ignored the German Constitution and the Treaty of Versaille, until he unilaterally declared the Constitution void, and used the military on those who spoke out against him as one of the worlds worst dictators. in the 1920's and 30's the NAZI's exclaimed "Seig Heil!" in Germany, in 2008 to today Obama's minions exclaim "Yes We Can!", well the answer to them is "NO YOU CAN'T!" and many are ready to rise up to defend the constitution by force, if necessary. Which side are you on, Obama's or the Constitutions?</div>
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SSG William Patton
Sgt McMahon, I am with you. You have described the environment we live in as it is and the picture you paint scares the hell out of me. Too many on this forum have not seen communists up close and personal and see the atrocities they commit in the name of the state. Hitler was much like Stalin and Mao, only he was not a communist, but all have one thing in common, like Obama, they were tyrants who used their position to force their agendas down the throats of their people. I for one would rather die than live under tyranny and I do not want my grandchildren to live under the jack boot foot of the soldiers of a tyrant. I quote Patrick Henry, "Give me liberty or give me death". It is that simple and we do not have liberty today. We have the illusion of liberty, but that too is fleeting. It is time to stand up and elect leaders who support the Constitution as it is written and if that is not possible, the Founders showed us a blue print for liberty and we may have to use it again.
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Support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC, remember that little part? The current Resident is a traitor to this nation and it is our DUTY to step in and stop it.
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Good topic SPC Buck, this has been going on for years and now in my opinion, it is more relevant with social media playing a huge factor. I think Soldiers need to understand their position as a Soldier and a civilian. Doing the right thing as a professional Soldier sets the example to our country and displays the Army Values; that is the core to professional military bearing.
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I swore an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, <br>foreign and domestic" and to "bear true faith and allegiance to the same." The President of the United States. I did my time in the Army for 26 years and never give up that oath and the love for my country, But I do remember that I do not have to follow orders that stand in violation of the Constitution for which I have swore an oath to defend and are unlawful.
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Larry Sell Out: Support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC, remember that little part? The current Resident is a traitor to this nation and it is our DUTY to step in and stop it.
PRESIDENT Trump is the first President in decades to not get us into ANY new wars. He has a LONG list of accomplishments that the current Resident has destroyed
PRESIDENT Trump is the first President in decades to not get us into ANY new wars. He has a LONG list of accomplishments that the current Resident has destroyed
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<p>Regulations are clear, you don't make disparaging comments about our elected officials especially the President of the United States. I know a flag officer that found that out after he shot his mouth off in Rolling Stone.</p><p> I agree with the regulations and strongly disagree with any member of the military who makes any public comment negative about the President. </p><p><br></p><p> You can disagree with policy and write to your congressmen to express your opinions,</p><p><br></p><p> You can disagree with gun control, pay and benefits, or just about anything else if you are respectful about it. You can vote against them in the next election if you wish.</p><p><br></p><p> But remember you are a member of the armed forces and your uniform, rank and status can and will make your comments more than what you meant them to be. Often groups with no affiliation to you will use your comments as proof of dissent and try to represent you or your beliefs as something their not.</p>
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<p>SPC Buck,</p><p>I am not too fond of the man,I do not hate him, but I am against his politics,he has done a lot to hurt the country. I have a little picture I put up, it says "I am a veteran, my oath of enlistment never expired." I promised to uphold,protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. Now I was in the military in 1980, things were a lot different back then, more freedom and love for life. After that all things seemed to go downhill. There seemed to be a lot of controls and regulations being placed on our rights and such.The current president has not proved he is a US citizen, he has caused major financial debt on this country, he is attacking the Constitution, the 1st, 2nd and 4th amendments and has given aid to our enemies in both money and weapons, let 4 people die in Benghazi Libya. now for your question Paul, by virtue of a veteran not being in the military, he/she is not bound by the UCMJ and thus has the right of speech, Active Duty doesn't have full right of speech and cannot express a derogatory complaint, but has right to express a complaint tactfully and in a controlled manner.But you never fully attack the president verbally (derogatory). If anyone else has a thought,I believe I explained it the best I could. Thank you Paul. </p>
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SPC William Wambolt
<p>SPC Basom,</p><p> </p><p>I truly am glad you're no longer serving! The last thing we need is a BIRTHER in our military.</p><p> </p><p>You say things went downhill after 1980! I agree, Reagan tripled the debt, started attacking the unions, and killing the middle class with trickle down economics which was the beginning of all the financial problems we have today.</p><p>Clinton tried to correct much of it and left a surplus in the budget. Then Bush II was elected burning through the budget and leaving office with the nation 10 trillion dollars in debt by starting 2 unfunded wars and giving his rich cronies huge tax breaks. while his VP, Cheney made millions if not billions through Haliburton. Leaving President Obama to account for the costs of both Iraq and Afghanistan onto "the books". During the Obama Administration the debt and deficit has actually been reduced by billions of $$ but you won't here that through the Fox Entertainment Complex.</p><p> </p><p>So to make a long list of events short Reagan started the financial crisis, Bush I tried to correct it by raising taxes, Clinton made some corrections that led to a balanced budget and a surplus, for the 1st time since Eisenhower, and Bush II compounded the economic problems by giving the richest 1% huge tax breaks because according to him a government surplus was an indication that people were paying too much to the government and started 2 unfunded wars. </p><p>Furthermore, it has already been proven that Benghazi was due to Congress under Boehner cutting the budget for State Department Security around the world. Also, Ambassador Steven's refused security and was known for going into places he shouldn't putting his life and others at risk.</p><p> </p><p>I voted for and supported President Obama twice. Is he perfect? No! But he has been getting an undeserved bad rap from the right since day1!! </p>
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Cpl Wamboldt he did at that, raise the debt but this was also a reaction to the incompetence of President Carter. I remember President Reagan giving us raises but more importantly elevated the spirits of Veterans.
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SSG William Patton
If you want to play the blame game, we must go way back. Woodrow Wilson was the first progressive and he, like Obama, had no real world experience. He was a professor at Princeton University and he governed from a text book. His policies and the the post WWI era helped to create the crash of 1929 and pushed the nation into the Great Depression. Franklin Roosevelt, the great savior, jump started the economy with government programs, except they really did not help. We got out of the depression when we hit maximum industrial capacity in WWII. Now lets jump to the real culprit. Mr. Guns and Butter, LBJ and his Great Society. This started what is now a $20 trillion dollar expenditure on stopping poverty, which today, is at record highs compared to the time before Johnson started his give away programs. Now Barack Obama has again, increased the number of people in poverty to a staggering 1 in 8. You may want to blame Reagan or Bush, but one thing all of these people have in common is they are progressives, democrats, and they have destroyed the fabric of America. You can say the right has bashed him, and they have, but only because he has deserved bashing. He is a communist and an enemy of my Constitution, that both of us took an oath to support and defend. As someone else in this forum stated, my enlistment does not expire.
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PV2 Larry Sellnow - Larry Sell Out Your TDS is showing. All I see from your posts is vitriolic hate for a man that was the best President this country has had in DECADES. He has a long list of accomplishments that you can only dream of doing.
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I heard this line one time: "You salute the rank, and not the man". I think it applies perfectly to the POTUS, regardless of conservative/liberal stance. I wasn't a fan at all of GWB but I did keep my mouth shut. Beyond the law of not denigrating the POTUS, the man is our boss. Last time I checked, even in the civilian world, bad mouthing your boss could lead to your termination. Same thing applies here.<br><br>In other words: Like him/her or not, keep your mouth shut.
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SGT Michael McMahon
The occupant in the White House IS NOT your boss, does he pay your salary, no, the TAXPAYERS do, your employers are the taxpayers of the United States, then you could be kicked out (fired) by an incoming President, like the Cabinet or other bureaucrats. Officers' Commissions are conferred by Congress, the representatives of the Citizens, not the President! <div><br></div><div>Too many of you youngsters, don't know the truth, as the Liberal revisionist education system has filled you so full of lies, that it is hard for your generation to know what to think. </div>
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SPC Christopher Smith
SGT McMahon, the president is my boss, just like a publicly traded company has a CEO. Does the President not pay taxes, just like a CEO gets stock in the business? Is the President (maybe not this one) a citizen? You have a very myopic view if you let a very general comment get you emotionally charged.
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Support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC, remember that little part? The current Resident is a traitor to this nation and it is our DUTY to step in and stop it.
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As a veteran you should be able to practice being an American citizen. As a service member keep your damn options to yourself. You shouldn’t be speaking on your Command in Chief. For those saying it’s my right as an American welcome to reality once you signed that contract many of them rights go away. If you don’t like it well ETS/Retire/GTFO
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Servicemembers clearly need to be aware of the regulations surrounding the issue.
Veterans are civilians, they can do whatever they want, they're irrelevant.
Veterans are civilians, they can do whatever they want, they're irrelevant.
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Wait what? Did you just say veterans are irrelevant? This explains todays military and civilian leaders in a nutshell. You must work for the Biden admin.
Support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC, remember that little part? The current Resident is a traitor to this nation and it is our DUTY to step in and stop it.
Support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC, remember that little part? The current Resident is a traitor to this nation and it is our DUTY to step in and stop it.
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