Posted on Dec 30, 2015
How do you handle a situation where a peer E-5 has failed in his duties?
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Here's my situation I had once and was wondering how others would have dealt with it.
On a Friday night receive a call from the Plt Sgt telling you to go to the barracks as he has been called by another Plt Sgt in your company stating that one of the soldiers in your platoon has an exceptionally dirty room and his roommate from the other platoon has finally gotten tire of cleaning up after him and called his leadership.
The reason the Plt Sgt has called you in you are the only NCO who lives on post and is the most reliable to answer his/her phone on a Friday night and willing to fix an issue right then and there.
You get to the barracks room to find the SPC from another platoon standing by waiting with his leadership, but the private in your platoon who created the mess has popped smoke and ran off into town as soon as he heard his roommate call his leadership.
The common area of the room is a complete mess with bags of trash from the PVT's room, and there is a horrible smell coming from the PVT's room. you open the PVT's door to his room and find dirty clothes and half empty food containers littering the room.
Take note the PVT's first line a SGT in your platoon had supposedly inspected the room earlier and had told the platoon sergeant that the room was clean.
What do you do and how do you proceed after taking photos of the situation for evidence?
On a Friday night receive a call from the Plt Sgt telling you to go to the barracks as he has been called by another Plt Sgt in your company stating that one of the soldiers in your platoon has an exceptionally dirty room and his roommate from the other platoon has finally gotten tire of cleaning up after him and called his leadership.
The reason the Plt Sgt has called you in you are the only NCO who lives on post and is the most reliable to answer his/her phone on a Friday night and willing to fix an issue right then and there.
You get to the barracks room to find the SPC from another platoon standing by waiting with his leadership, but the private in your platoon who created the mess has popped smoke and ran off into town as soon as he heard his roommate call his leadership.
The common area of the room is a complete mess with bags of trash from the PVT's room, and there is a horrible smell coming from the PVT's room. you open the PVT's door to his room and find dirty clothes and half empty food containers littering the room.
Take note the PVT's first line a SGT in your platoon had supposedly inspected the room earlier and had told the platoon sergeant that the room was clean.
What do you do and how do you proceed after taking photos of the situation for evidence?
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Dig into the root cause if the filth. It may stem from a mental health issue like Depression, or substance abuse. Once those are ruled out as a leader find out what their motivation is for maintaining the room in an unsat condition. A couple of questions come to mind.
Did the NCO actually inspect the room? Was their report honest? Many times I have seen things like that where all the mess was shoved in a wall locker locked during inspection. If the NCO was truthful what happened? If the NCO was dishonest violating integrity, why? What would motivate them to do that? While bizarre, this may be a symptom, and not the problem. Wrapping your head around the problem will take close work with both involved. Reach up to seniors if needed to get to the bottom of things.
Did the NCO actually inspect the room? Was their report honest? Many times I have seen things like that where all the mess was shoved in a wall locker locked during inspection. If the NCO was truthful what happened? If the NCO was dishonest violating integrity, why? What would motivate them to do that? While bizarre, this may be a symptom, and not the problem. Wrapping your head around the problem will take close work with both involved. Reach up to seniors if needed to get to the bottom of things.
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My first question to you is, Are you that soldiers Squad Leader? Are you the first line leader of that SGT who said he passed prior inspection? If not, I would asking the PLT SGT why he did not call the Squad Leader? It is great that others knows you are dependable and outstanding NCO, that they can count on. However, this does not fix the real issue of the leadership problems. When the other soldiers leadership is there waiting there, (also seems this is not the first time either) the PLT SGT should been there at this point, not you. It seems your unit has a big leadership problems that goes up to the PLT SGT for not doing his duties. If I was the 1SG, I would conduct my investigation of talking to you, the other soldier and his leaders. I would then call the PLT SGT in and have him/her explain to me. If I felt his/her actions were poor, retraining and put on probation as a PLT SGT . Every soldier deserves great leadership.
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We had a certified nasty ass in our barracks in Germany. Apparently, this douche was using his wall locker as a dumpster. It was when the barracks was smelling like death is when the First Sergeant conducted a surprise walk through to pinpoint the source. We came to the room because the smell was coming from there. We went in there and sure enough we found it. Soldier was ordered to open his wall locker and the smell made me and the First Sergeant vomit. All kinds of trash in that locker and it even had rotten meat in it and the refrigerator was filled with rotten food. That was the worst room I have ever seen. That Private spent all weekend cleaning that superfund of a room.
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I don't understand how this could even be a thing. Sounds like an Article 15 and a whole lot of extra duty is in order!
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As an officer a long time ago(60’s-70’s) I never had this problem and we were dealing with a lot of draftees when I was a plt I walked all of my area every day. Barracks motor pool etc if I found deficiencies first time the proper nco’s were informed. Never had a second time when a company commander and Bn Xo I did the same thing only not as often but every area at least once a week. My NCO’s new I would be looking so they looked harder oftener. Once as CO new to company found unlocked foot lockers and wall lockers 2 each. Do I assumed the soldiers were proud of thei layout and inspected they were a mess especially after I finished checking. But being a good fair officer I set up another inspection for 2100 Friday. With layout. This time it was very good. NCO’s & troops got the message. No passes that night but I never had another problem of that nature. This was in Germany 1969
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This hole thing is wrong . Never herd of 2 different Platoons sharing the same room before !
The inspecting NCO would have a wright up Mon. morning , along with the Pvt. There would be a GI party Monday for that room , With all clothing Washed, folded & put up, With Inspection every day by the Plt .Sgt..
The inspecting NCO would have a wright up Mon. morning , along with the Pvt. There would be a GI party Monday for that room , With all clothing Washed, folded & put up, With Inspection every day by the Plt .Sgt..
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Do your best to build him and help him with his weakness don't do his job ,
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First of all the PSG should have been there with the PVT'S SQUAD LEADER AND TEAM LEADER
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I lock the PVT's door, and move him in with his SGT. LOL that's old school.
Seriously, I think I would have a one on one over coffee with the SGT, and discuss the position they put me in. And how it really sucked having to come in on my off time. Then maybe find out how much help and guidance this young SGT had in how to deal with the transition from SPC to SGT...my bet is it was a young SGT, still a buddy not a leader....
Seriously, I think I would have a one on one over coffee with the SGT, and discuss the position they put me in. And how it really sucked having to come in on my off time. Then maybe find out how much help and guidance this young SGT had in how to deal with the transition from SPC to SGT...my bet is it was a young SGT, still a buddy not a leader....
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SGT Myles Taylor
Said SGT later spent a while in prison for raping one of our PFCs the first night she had been assigned to our unit. He was a complete dirtbag.
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