Posted on Sep 5, 2014
How do you react to negative posts on RallyPoint?
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I notice how easily many of us become offended or outraged when someone posts something drastically contradicting one's beliefs or is un-cultural. Heck I took a hit of about 30 down votes in my Rallypoint career!
Have you thought of the ways to address members in less than aggressive manner?
Do you find yourself trying to 'put someone in their place', 'giving them piece of your mind' or are you genuinely interested in helping them see an issue from broader perspective?
Have you thought of the ways to address members in less than aggressive manner?
Do you find yourself trying to 'put someone in their place', 'giving them piece of your mind' or are you genuinely interested in helping them see an issue from broader perspective?
Posted >1 y ago
Responses: 17
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SSG John Bacon
What the heck is an aluminum Falcon? Well where are you? You've been Floating around for two weeks trying to get a signal? Eww you must smell like an old sock wrapped in burnt leathery bacon. LMAO!!
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SFC Mark Merino I wish you would stop showing my senior picture around!! I am sensitive about my grill!! hahah
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I thought about addressing a comment that I found a little uncalled for, but then decided it wasn't worth it. The reality is, we all have a right to our own opinions. That's one of the things we defend as service members. We don't have to agree with everything others may say, but that doesn't mean we need to be spiteful about it.
I don't think I would be much of an officer, let alone much of a Soldier, if I spent all of my time trying to put people in their place. I would much rather learn from all of you on here, and I hope I can offer some sound advice or insight from time to time too.
All right - bring on the thumbs down. I can take it. :-P
I don't think I would be much of an officer, let alone much of a Soldier, if I spent all of my time trying to put people in their place. I would much rather learn from all of you on here, and I hope I can offer some sound advice or insight from time to time too.
All right - bring on the thumbs down. I can take it. :-P
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
Ma'am, its not about putting people in there place, trust me wanted to do it many times. It's about keeping the peace so that a senior officer and a lower enlisted and any mix in between can have a place to discuss things in a professional manner while agreeing or disagreeing amicably. Personally no matter how badly someone may insult me or overstep their bounds, I choose not to thumb down anyone out of respect for the fact that everyone has their opinion, however badly or unprofessionally they may state it. I have reported a few individuals so that RP administration can make a determination on the "professionalism" or lack there of in a post or comment.
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LTC Hillary Luton
OK MAJ Robert Petrarca, I can buy that. But to be honest, my comment about putting others in their place was just in response to the original post.
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PO1 (Join to see) We get some of that here and then they just seem to disappear. But mostly pretty civil, even with those who think they know more about Climate than a Meteorologist.. Just saying!! lol
SFC Mark Merino SGT (Join to see) LTC Hillary Luton
SFC Mark Merino SGT (Join to see) LTC Hillary Luton
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SSgt (Join to see)
MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca Should have included you as you were involved in that discussion.
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PO1 (Join to see)
I've seen a couple posts where people straight up bash and judge other without any analysis whatsoever. Most are vets and up in age so I can't hold too much against them. And don't worry, Larry, you're not one of them!
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I have yet to use the "thumbs down" option that is sure to have serious political and emotional ramifications on an individual. I have chosen to bide my time and stew in my own anger juices until the even more devastating "bent dog tag" option has come to fruition.
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MSG Wade Huffman
I used the thumbs down for the first time today. The comment was just SO far out of line I couldn't NOT.
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SFC Mark Merino
Oh I know exactly which comment you are referring to MSG Wade Huffman . I was looking for the panic button on that individual. A little therapy at this stage of life might be exactly what is needed for that individual. I can't help but think my ex is that person's best friend!
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SFC Mark Merino
CPT Gregory Wagoner MSG Wade Huffman Can we get a little icon of a steaming pile of doggie doo doo with flies?? That way there is NO DOUBT as to how we feel about some comments?
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OK, PO1 Dronzin, here are my thoughts....
Most of us have very deeply rooted values and beliefs. Most of us understand that OUR values and beliefs are NOT necessarily the same values and beliefs as everyone else. One would assume, therefore, that we could have a 'discussion' of our different perspectives in a professional manner. Reasonable? Sure it is! UNTIL one or both parties allows emotions to dictate their responses rather than reason, that is when the discussion quickly goes to 'Hades in a hand-basket'.
We're all human, we all read posts that tend to raise our ire, and there is nothing wrong with that, it's completely normal. Perhaps, once we find ourselves in this 'heightened emotional state', we should step away for the conversation for a period of time in order to form a lucid, and logical response rather than reacting in a defensive and emotional manner.
I realize this is, in many cases, easier said than done; but maybe we, as a community, can agree to TRY.
Just a thought.
Most of us have very deeply rooted values and beliefs. Most of us understand that OUR values and beliefs are NOT necessarily the same values and beliefs as everyone else. One would assume, therefore, that we could have a 'discussion' of our different perspectives in a professional manner. Reasonable? Sure it is! UNTIL one or both parties allows emotions to dictate their responses rather than reason, that is when the discussion quickly goes to 'Hades in a hand-basket'.
We're all human, we all read posts that tend to raise our ire, and there is nothing wrong with that, it's completely normal. Perhaps, once we find ourselves in this 'heightened emotional state', we should step away for the conversation for a period of time in order to form a lucid, and logical response rather than reacting in a defensive and emotional manner.
I realize this is, in many cases, easier said than done; but maybe we, as a community, can agree to TRY.
Just a thought.
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MSG Wade Huffman
PO1 (Join to see) , I only wish! Perhaps I should qualify the above by adding the phrase "reasonably minded people"...
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One of the things I don't understand about this site is the "point" system. You get points for someone voting you "up" and lose points for someone voting you "down". I've responded to comments, paired my response with a "down" vote and the respondee was more hurt and offended by my down vote than they were with my response.
Why have a point system for votes at all? A couple of comments I've read have alluded to the same thing I'm about to write. It turns things into sort of a competition. Like many of you, I'm here to connect with my fellow brothers and sisters in the military and occasionally engage in healthy debate about subjects that pertain to active service members, veterans, retirees and in general, the well being of our country.
I see no problem with giving someone a thumbs down for a comment I really disagree with and agree that if you're going to give a thumbs down, pair it with a response. Get rid of the point system though. I think it's silly and creates unnecessary divisiveness.
Why have a point system for votes at all? A couple of comments I've read have alluded to the same thing I'm about to write. It turns things into sort of a competition. Like many of you, I'm here to connect with my fellow brothers and sisters in the military and occasionally engage in healthy debate about subjects that pertain to active service members, veterans, retirees and in general, the well being of our country.
I see no problem with giving someone a thumbs down for a comment I really disagree with and agree that if you're going to give a thumbs down, pair it with a response. Get rid of the point system though. I think it's silly and creates unnecessary divisiveness.
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PO1 (Join to see)
Nah, I say keep the points. They're fun and, I can't speak for others, but help keeping me engaged in a sense. Also, everyone likes points. Come on, no better feeling than seeing that '... Voted you UP +50' on that ticker. You get my 'point'? ;-)
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If you have reviewed more than one thread you understand who is passionate about what here on RP. This is like a family where you know who the druggy is, who the jail bird is, who the crazy uncle is, who the alcoholic mom is, who the "I don't give a crap" grandpa is. We know who we are collectively.
There are many posts where I have life experience or knowledge I would love to impart. However, realistically I realize that I know who will jump on my "OPINION" like a dog on a stew bone. I make a rational decision not to be bullied and by pass the conversation leaving my comment on the floor.
Sometimes I do post with the "Damn the torpedo's full speed ahead" intent and live with the consequences. Often it is a post and run and I refuse to engage in a senseless round robin of discussion with someone who refuses to acknowledge that another point of view/opinion might in fact exist.
Does this deprive the membership of RP at large of the privilege of my insight? It certainly does as it deprives me of others insight who do the same thing for some of the same reasons.
I would love to have engaged and meaningful conversation here where we exchange ideas, evaluate the other opinion and either consider it or not consider it. Disparagement, personal attacks and vitriol has no real place here as who are we trying to impress? I mean really, I want to expand my pool of contacts who may help me at some point when I need it. I will certainly not engage someone who I deem to be hostile and request assistance when I need it.
RP is a microcosm of our society and as such we have to deal with all it has to offer. Sometimes it is better to STFU and move on to happier places than stop and engage the combat zone which some of these threads become.
Me I try to see every comment from the user point of view. Sometimes it is impossible to follow the logic especially if I become so emotionally engaged that I lose objectivity. That is the point I pull myself away from the conversation as I no longer serve a purpose other than to foment further aggression.
In the end I quote Rodney King "Can't we all just get along?"
There are many posts where I have life experience or knowledge I would love to impart. However, realistically I realize that I know who will jump on my "OPINION" like a dog on a stew bone. I make a rational decision not to be bullied and by pass the conversation leaving my comment on the floor.
Sometimes I do post with the "Damn the torpedo's full speed ahead" intent and live with the consequences. Often it is a post and run and I refuse to engage in a senseless round robin of discussion with someone who refuses to acknowledge that another point of view/opinion might in fact exist.
Does this deprive the membership of RP at large of the privilege of my insight? It certainly does as it deprives me of others insight who do the same thing for some of the same reasons.
I would love to have engaged and meaningful conversation here where we exchange ideas, evaluate the other opinion and either consider it or not consider it. Disparagement, personal attacks and vitriol has no real place here as who are we trying to impress? I mean really, I want to expand my pool of contacts who may help me at some point when I need it. I will certainly not engage someone who I deem to be hostile and request assistance when I need it.
RP is a microcosm of our society and as such we have to deal with all it has to offer. Sometimes it is better to STFU and move on to happier places than stop and engage the combat zone which some of these threads become.
Me I try to see every comment from the user point of view. Sometimes it is impossible to follow the logic especially if I become so emotionally engaged that I lose objectivity. That is the point I pull myself away from the conversation as I no longer serve a purpose other than to foment further aggression.
In the end I quote Rodney King "Can't we all just get along?"
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PO1 (Join to see)
That's wrong, I disagree with everything you said! Just kidding. Ever read Dale Carnegie's 'How to make friends and influence people'? Excellent all-time read. A great insight to understanding others' points of view without jumping into conclusions or assumptions.
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Cpl Aaron Nelson
To touch on something James inadvertently brought up, we all have different personalities also, much like your typical family analogy above, which translates into many different interpretations of any given comment or topic. What someone may post in sarcasm, others may take quite literally. I can be guilty of posting flippant comments at times which will invariably be misconstrued as nearly anything other than my true meaning.
Throw a bad day on top of that and who knows what might go down over something very insignificant. Then the mud starts getting thrown. In the end no one gains anything.
Throw a bad day on top of that and who knows what might go down over something very insignificant. Then the mud starts getting thrown. In the end no one gains anything.
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I'm surprised how some comment on here. I know some of us like to vent but nonetheless we should keep it professional. A joke here and there is fun but some are out just to bash others and feel superior.
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CPT (Join to see)
As least you are not an Ensign. The bashing would have followed shortly thereafter.
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When I see posts with people expressing some uber-attitude and I am interested in the discussion, I try to remind people what the site is meant for, hopefully w/o showing attitude back, and that we all show respect here. Then I see if they want to join me in a verse or two of "Kumbaya".
Hopefully, with others joining in, the post becomes defused before the attitude-laced statements start getting tossed over hedges like hand grenades.
Hopefully, with others joining in, the post becomes defused before the attitude-laced statements start getting tossed over hedges like hand grenades.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca You are a calming influence and I am a cutup and fun-loving person unless someone hits a hot spot. lol
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I am old, set in my ways and do not like the kinder gentler army. F ups were fixed with push ups not paper work. If that did not work mowing the 1Sgt's grass and stripping and waxing all the floors over the week end did the job.
Me at my best. "Erny no one is on detail, mow the grass" Me, "OK" I get the mower, see a post engineer drive buy, I flag him down, he mows the grass with a tractor, I get the details in about 20 minutes. Put the mower away. CW2 "Erny! I told you to mow the GRASS!" Me "I did Chief" CW2 "Bullshit!" Me, "look at the grass Chief, it has be mowed" Chief walks out side "how the hell did you do that!" Me, " Chief I am just that good" He starts to short circuit so I let him in on the details. CW2 "Good Job, go back to work"
Me at my best. "Erny no one is on detail, mow the grass" Me, "OK" I get the mower, see a post engineer drive buy, I flag him down, he mows the grass with a tractor, I get the details in about 20 minutes. Put the mower away. CW2 "Erny! I told you to mow the GRASS!" Me "I did Chief" CW2 "Bullshit!" Me, "look at the grass Chief, it has be mowed" Chief walks out side "how the hell did you do that!" Me, " Chief I am just that good" He starts to short circuit so I let him in on the details. CW2 "Good Job, go back to work"
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PO1 (Join to see)
Heck of a story there, SSG. I do not necessarily see a 'kinder' or 'gentler' military myself, more like 'diplomatic' with more sense of accountability and less room for shortcuts. Great story nevertheless!
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