Posted on Dec 2, 2014
How does the majority feel about body cameras for police officers nationwide?
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I know some areas in the U.S, police departments have already implemented this plan in their daily routines. I wonder if it will in fact improve relations between cops and the communities or will it fail. It's a great idea because the cameras serve for the cops safety and ours as well. There's just a certain way I feel about police policing their own. I feel in many cases that a police officer will back up a fellow police officer no matter what. Maybe a neutral party to monitor these devices? What are your thoughts on this new plan?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30290308
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30290308
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I think it will hope the Police Officer more accountable in their version of what happens in an incident. There have been too many times covering for each other and wording the way things happen to make the officer look justified.
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SGM (Join to see)
Great idea, then maybe the Media will air all the footage of citizens insulting police officers or not following directions.
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1SG (Join to see)
There are some that will have a system designed to be beat. Some of those leave the officer the option to turn them off.
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I'm in favor, but I don' think it will fix anything. I do hope they include sound, so the jury can see the idiot arguing with the police on why he should be allowed to sell cigarettes, or walk down the middle of the street, or whatever their excuse is for resisting arrest.
There's an old saying, "You can't fix stupid." Once the police officer says, "You are under arrest", you ARE ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY going for a ride somewhere that you didn't want to go. There are plenty of people who need to internalize that FACT. Now if ANYONE is so stupid that they are willing to risk their own life to fight against something that is ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY going to happen, I don't see that as the police's fault. You get to decide how much you want to hurt before the inevitable happens.YOU make the choice on whether that will be a ride in a police car or in a hearse.
There's an old saying, "You can't fix stupid." Once the police officer says, "You are under arrest", you ARE ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY going for a ride somewhere that you didn't want to go. There are plenty of people who need to internalize that FACT. Now if ANYONE is so stupid that they are willing to risk their own life to fight against something that is ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY going to happen, I don't see that as the police's fault. You get to decide how much you want to hurt before the inevitable happens.YOU make the choice on whether that will be a ride in a police car or in a hearse.
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I think it will still cause some issues as it still won't give you an idea of depth perception or distance. It will miss all of the other environmental factors that the police must use to make the instant decisions. Did dashboard cameras improve relations between the general public and the police?
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The issue is we expect the police to respond to every situation they encounter perfectly, every single time and even if one person disagrees, then it is still not good enough.
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The issue is we expect the police to respond to every situation they encounter perfectly, every single time and even if one person disagrees, then it is still not good enough.
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I am all for it. Since the implementation of the body cams they have stopped a slew of false claims that were submitted. It will stop or at least identify those trying to claim racial or religious discrimination and/or abuse.
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Sgt Erle Mutz
Yep - cause they are the real way COPS should be acting and carrying out their jobs. UNfortunately - the Reagans are only characters in a TV show. So sad! No one to fess up and be honest about keeping law and order - WITHOUT the UNcalled for violence and death from the police. I understand - they can't read minds, see through clothes, nor predict the future, but why can't they just be honest and obey the law like the general public is supposed to? Is that too much to ask? I think not!
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Jon,
I really hate to say this, but where does it end!! First there were cameras on cruisers for traffic stops, officers wearing body mics to record conversations with perps and now body cameras! I remember when being a police officer was a great job. Police officers are trained to protect their communities and their cities, now it seems like they have to protect themselves against thugs and criminals, civily. I'm not a political person, but when it comes to this topic I feel a responsibility to speak out. I have been a cop for 16 years in the military, I have also graduated from a county Sheriff Department academy. I understand both sides when it comes to controversy because of my training and education, but 99% of the population do not understand because they have no idea of the things we are taught or how we are trained. Police Officers are chosen to be cops for a reason! They have passed extensive backgrounds, polygraphs and psychological evaluations to make the cut! Are there bad cops? Yes, you will always have that one or two that are not on the up and up per say! You have this same problem in any organization though. Not every Airman, Marine, Seaman or Soldier are on the up and up for that matter. If they were, we wouldn't need Briggs. Wearing of body cameras should be optional if anything! Bottom line is, back your Police Officers!
I really hate to say this, but where does it end!! First there were cameras on cruisers for traffic stops, officers wearing body mics to record conversations with perps and now body cameras! I remember when being a police officer was a great job. Police officers are trained to protect their communities and their cities, now it seems like they have to protect themselves against thugs and criminals, civily. I'm not a political person, but when it comes to this topic I feel a responsibility to speak out. I have been a cop for 16 years in the military, I have also graduated from a county Sheriff Department academy. I understand both sides when it comes to controversy because of my training and education, but 99% of the population do not understand because they have no idea of the things we are taught or how we are trained. Police Officers are chosen to be cops for a reason! They have passed extensive backgrounds, polygraphs and psychological evaluations to make the cut! Are there bad cops? Yes, you will always have that one or two that are not on the up and up per say! You have this same problem in any organization though. Not every Airman, Marine, Seaman or Soldier are on the up and up for that matter. If they were, we wouldn't need Briggs. Wearing of body cameras should be optional if anything! Bottom line is, back your Police Officers!
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SrA (Join to see)
I do understand your outlook and point of view, but trying to reason with a person whom has been employed in the target field is going to be an icy uphill battle for me, yet I will elaborate.
All I ask for is accountability, I do not trust anyone and it's hard to back up each and every police officer after a significant spike of proven misconduct from police officers. Not all police departments hold polygraphs as well. The person whom originally started and passed psychological examinations may not be the same person after certain incidents that occur in the line of duty or elsewhere in their lives. Besides if in fact the police officer is doing nothing wrong then what is the concern with having a camera that will ensure legitimacy on both ends? Just because they are being ordered to utilize body cameras doesn't mean all citizens see them as unjust, weak individuals. I see it as a lack of accountability on behalf of the departments whom had officers with negative records and didn't deal with things accordingly. We all have to answer to someone and are supposed to face the consequences. I can sit here and research multiple instances where police officers were in the wrong and acted unethically to further prove my point about accountability. There seems to be some sort of disconnect with what training is being conducted or what training has remained within the officers conduct. Sorry, but life is precious and it infuriates me to see people abused and treated unfairly because of some abusive, egocentric officer.
In conclusion, I mentioned this before in another response. I do respect police officers, I donate to my local police department yearly. They serve the community well and protect their citizens. Just today they had a drug raid at 0500, here's the link http://westchester.news12.com/news/police-stage-major-drug-raid-in-new-rochelle-1.9676101. I have close family members whom are leo's and I recently took the police entry exam for my city as well. I wouldn't mind actually learning from my own experiences within this field. I maintain awareness and do my best to maintain a sense of neutrality with these sensitive issues. All I'm asking for is accountability, because something as unjust as taking one's life, brutality or incarcerating someone unfairly deserves not a slap on the hand but some major revamping. It shouldn't happen with such ferocity, one occurrence is enough.
All I ask for is accountability, I do not trust anyone and it's hard to back up each and every police officer after a significant spike of proven misconduct from police officers. Not all police departments hold polygraphs as well. The person whom originally started and passed psychological examinations may not be the same person after certain incidents that occur in the line of duty or elsewhere in their lives. Besides if in fact the police officer is doing nothing wrong then what is the concern with having a camera that will ensure legitimacy on both ends? Just because they are being ordered to utilize body cameras doesn't mean all citizens see them as unjust, weak individuals. I see it as a lack of accountability on behalf of the departments whom had officers with negative records and didn't deal with things accordingly. We all have to answer to someone and are supposed to face the consequences. I can sit here and research multiple instances where police officers were in the wrong and acted unethically to further prove my point about accountability. There seems to be some sort of disconnect with what training is being conducted or what training has remained within the officers conduct. Sorry, but life is precious and it infuriates me to see people abused and treated unfairly because of some abusive, egocentric officer.
In conclusion, I mentioned this before in another response. I do respect police officers, I donate to my local police department yearly. They serve the community well and protect their citizens. Just today they had a drug raid at 0500, here's the link http://westchester.news12.com/news/police-stage-major-drug-raid-in-new-rochelle-1.9676101. I have close family members whom are leo's and I recently took the police entry exam for my city as well. I wouldn't mind actually learning from my own experiences within this field. I maintain awareness and do my best to maintain a sense of neutrality with these sensitive issues. All I'm asking for is accountability, because something as unjust as taking one's life, brutality or incarcerating someone unfairly deserves not a slap on the hand but some major revamping. It shouldn't happen with such ferocity, one occurrence is enough.
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SMSgt (Join to see)
Accountability goes without saying. There has to be accountability in every job or position, LE is no different. Next thing you will see is body cameras on our combat forces to ensure they are being held accountable. A Judges job is to hold LEO's accountable. I find it funny how upset people get when a cop doesn't get indicted. I could understand if you went to Law School and spent years to be a judge, but that's not the case EVER! You get joe blow that has no Law background, has not one credible shred of evidence, just hearsay, that feels cops are running around killing people without accountability. We have a justice system and as slow as it may be, it is effective. We have a city of people burning down their own town because they want justice! Accountability starts with you (us)! We have to be accountable for our own actions. With the latest case of Erik Garner, first off, the officer did not use a CHOKE HOLD (Media Hype), he preformed a CAROTID RESTRAINT and when done properly will knock a perp smooth out because you are putting preasure on the carotid arteries while the v bend in your arm fits over the perps larynx allowing them to breath. Now, if you move while I am attempting to subdue you and you get hurt because of your actions, that's your fault, not the Cops fault. Another example, a perp is resisting arrest and I break out my asp and attempt to strike him in the shoulder, but the perp moves and gets cracked in the head and ultimately dies, is the Officer liable? Absolutely not!! Just food for thought, we have levels of force that we use pertaining to a situation. First level is Command Presence and that usually works, but you get your folks that don't want to comply and then become combative. Do what's asked of you when stopped. If you feel violated you can always sue later.
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