Posted on Aug 7, 2015
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The following was *supposedly* posted by a member of the United States Army. What do you think about his message?
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PO1 Jamie Heath
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CPL Dennis Clark
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As a service member the only order you can legally refuse to obey is an 'unlawful order.' In order to understand what that means you need to understand what your purpose of service is. "To support and defend the Constitution of the United States, against all enemies, both foreign and domestic." If the order given violates either the Constitution, or rules of engagement (without proper justification), then it is deemed as unlawful, and you can refuse. If it does not violate either one then you are legally bound to obey it. If you refuse to obey a lawful order then you can try to explain that at your court-martial. The other part of the oath taken is that you will obey the orders of the President of the United States. For this Soldier to make a statement such as "I won't kill for this" tells me that he doesn't truly understand how the rules of engagement, or US Constitution works. Our orders are never to "kill." "Do not fire until fired upon." If nobody fires at you then you have no reason to kill. If somebody fires at you then you have every right to defend yourself, with deadly force. This soldier behaves as though he is in the Special Forces, Spec Ops, The Unit, or SEALS, who are the ones assigned to target specific people, and kill on site. That is not an everyday soldier's job. His proper wording should be "I will not fight back and defend myself for this." You want to go into war empty-handed, be my guest, but tossing your weapon, or surrendering it to your commander, and abandoning your unit is desertion, which, during a time of war, can potentially lead to death by firing squad. Last I heard the death penalty for desertion is still legal. The one who would make that final decision is the commanding general. Major General Norman Cota did it to Private Eddie Slovik. Just because many commanding generals deny the death penalty does not mean that all will do the same. Sometimes an example must be made and that's why Slovik was the first to be executed for desertion, since the civil war. Some soldiers need to truly think about why they joined the service, before they spout off their own political beliefs.
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Cpl Darrin Pruett
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Looks to me like the sign was superimposed onto the photo.
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National Guard? ACU is a dead uniform for Army here.
The age and rank say this one obviously lacks brainpower
SPC John Williams
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This looks fake to me. However, when a person joins any military they don't let you pick and choose which conflicts/wars you like. I think the biggest part of military life is following orders. The key word there is "orders" not "request." We all do things we don't like. Tough titty.
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PVT John Maloney
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Russian propaganda.
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SSG Motor Transport Operator
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This has got to be a BS post by someone that is already out of the military. That is no longer the daily duty uniform for currently serving SM's in any component of the Army. That individual is doing this for Clout and I see alot of the comments falling into the trap. I agree and comply that no protests should be made in duty or dress uniform. As for this post I'm calling bullshit
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SPC Charlie Robinson
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I agree with the message, but don't do it in uniform.
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MSgt Janice Trojan
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He can't protest in uniform. But this war is not our war. I appreciate his discipline not to be photographed.
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SSG Healthcare Specialist (Combat Medic)
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That he is a e4 and its been a lot of years since he could of earned that combat patch
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