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My time on active duty is now over 20 years ago. I am interested to hear from veterans and active sailors how things have changed in that time. The day to day life, deployments, the overall mission, etc.

For instance, in my day there was no internet to speak of. Is that a daily part of shipboard life? Satellite phones if they existed were strictly for SEALS or somebody like that, cell phones came in a giant bag or were about the size of a claymore mine. Do you get to use your cell phones when you get signal? Did they every finally put a McDonald's on an Aircraft carrier? Our mission included playing a giant chess game with the Soviet Navy...what is the current mission like?

Inquiring minds want to know.

There's 72,000 + Navy on this site and we rarely hear from them. I'd like to see the squids get more engaged.
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CWO3 Electronics Material Officer (Emo)
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Where to start? I just transferred from a DDG last year, we had "high speed" internet to around 100 PC's. The internet is a huge part of day to day operations with the 3M system, parts ordering and the such all utilizing the web. Satellite phones are for emergencies only however there is a pool of phones available to the higher ups and a few offices. On my ship from Taps to reveille we had a "morale" line set up for 15 minute calls to Norfolk for free. If the person was to call long distance they needed a phone card. This was all on a first come first serve basis. Cell phones are a huge NO NO. Once the ship set sea and anchor, no more cell phone usage. The mission today, for DDG's at least, is counter piracy, escort duty, or in my case Ballistic Missile Defence. Haven't done any shadow games with the Russians or any other navy since I've entered service in 2001.
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That answered my question about cell phones, thanks! I figured it would be verboten on board at sea but wasn't sure. Sounds like computers and the internet really changed the way business is conducted aboard ship. I knew it had to have but your answer really highlighted the changes. Thanks Chief!
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PO1 Dallas Shewmaker
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Well said, Chief! I believe that technology has indeed changed the way of things. I served in a time where most of this was in implementation and I couldn't be more grateful. I don't miss waiting for valuable off-hours in the OPS hallway for a weak 15 minute NMARSAT call. I certainly don't miss the literal man-hours spent filling out a dozen documents for a regular supply order. Nor do I miss those same man-hours being spent processing personnel requests. One thing that I can definitely relate to, though is that it seems that they're making the Navy much more transparent. They're making it so that despite the Navy (or any other military branch) lifestyle being so vastly different than civilian life, they're trying to make it so that there isn't a difference. "It's just like any other job," as my recruiter in 1992 told me. This is completely false. It's not like any other job. The people you work with are diverse but you have to learn how to adapt and learn to deal with them.

Case in point: I grew up in San Diego. I didn't know country music at all. I mean, I've heard some pop crossovers but never anything heard on radio. I was a punk rock surfer from the beach. Johnny Cash was about as country as I got. Anyway, my first CMC was a country boy from the south. He loved George Strait. So everyday, before the announcements over the 1MC, he would play a George Strait song. At first, I hated it. Totally would start my day wrong. Then I got used to it. Tolerated it. Eventually, finding a liking towards country music.

What we're teaching new sailors is not tolerance but selfishness. That if they don't like it, they can whine to the right person and eventually policy is made.
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PO1 S4 Logistics Clerk
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I think the reason the Navy personnel hardly speak on this site is because the Army and Marines seem to have more problems than we do. We can voice what appropriate actions we would take however those are different branches who have different methods for solving their problems. Like I'm sure several people have stated, the Navy has got a lot nicer. We cater to everyone's needs.
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PO1 John Meyer, CPC
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I remember having to use a satellite phone to make phone calls, which was in the library on the ship (USS Independence) and good luck being able to use it because it was always being used by someone else! We had arcade style video games instead of X-Box, PlayStation, etc. Yes, we didn't have Internet and yes, we had to write letters to communicate back home.

Fast-forward to my last ship that I left in 2003 and things were a lot different. We had Internet, even though connection was limited. At least we could email friends and family back home instead of having to use snail mail. You could use cell phones, assuming you were close enough to land to get a signal. We had X-box/PlayStation tournaments.
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We had a Super NES in our coop. I think that Street Fighter 2 was the game to play LOL. Times have sure changed.
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I had internet on my ships, but it was very unreliable. Letters were still very much appreciated while underway. I saw the ship's satellite phone used only once, for a personal emergency. Cell phones were just going mainstream, but my ships were exceptions (CIVMARS) and the rails were lined every time we transited through the Philippines. Our main mission was UNREP with a heavy dose of humanitarian aid. Of course, my experience was 10 years ago, and all my ships have since been scuttled.
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PO1 Lester Frilling
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lol when i got in 1987 was no such thing as cell phones or internet !!! Isuppose it would have been nicer but not sure it would take the excitment out of Mail Call !!
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Nope. Mail call was still king when I was in.
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SFC Mark Merino
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I'm following this thread closely as well. I have no idea how life is in the Navy. I saw Seabees pulling convoy ops in Iraq and it almost blew my mind.
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MCPO Douglas Pennington and PO1 Donald Hammond

Hey, Chief... remember that "haze gray" is NOT sufficient camouflage for a TASM / Harpoon / Mk 48 ADCAP... he he he he he
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MCPO Douglas Pennington
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damn Steve you full of good will today...loved it none the less..
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PO2 Steven Erickson
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Just doin' my job, Master Chief! I'm here on RP to bring the Big Fun!
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CDR Director, U.S. Navy Police
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SFC Mark Merino, we're not limited to the sea, that's for sure. Convoy and detainee ops in the middle east, been there, done that. Counternarcotics ops in Central America...check. Counterterrorism investigations with the FBI's JTTF, yup. There's a whole lot we do.

I've been in for almost 23 years and I've never been assigned to a ship. I'm what other Navy personnel affectionately call a "Dirt Sailor." I'm a Fleet Marine Force Officer and have spent almost half of my career serving with the USMC.
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad
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Well, for one thing, it doesn't have any more of these ...
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PO3 Jeff Lane
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Retired my ship the Enterprise, retired the aircraft I worked on, F-14s.

Id say its changed a bit.
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad
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No one can deny that the battleships were outdated technology and too expensive to maintain, but they were a formidable sight to see. I will never forget the day that there was a lot of fighting going on around the (Beirut) embassy --- that abruptly stopped when the New Jersey made a show of coming in closer to the coast. Frankly, I think she scared the crap out of those clowns! :-)
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PO2 John Riley
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I can only tell you how it changed since 1958. I was deployed on destroyers (DD 703 Wallace L. Lind) and we operated with the Nautilus - our first nuclear sub
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SN Joyce Sunderland
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Memories of my time in the service:
Hafa! I was at NavSta Guam - Port Ops in '93 when they had the big quake ... Port Ops had fun trying to pull the piers back together. I'd been there a month when it hit. Pretty scary experience for a small-town kid from Nebraska.
I remember going to a friend's house in Lockwood Terrace and seeing her bubblehead hubby's internet setup & being amazed that he was chatting with people on the other side of the world... and trying to figure out the time difference between Guam and Nebraska so I could call home & tell my folks I was doing ok. Calls were so expensive that I wrote more letters than I called home.
I remember working my hind end off while doing line-handling on the Navy harbor tugs & feeling a sense of pride that my face was one of the first new faces those shipboard sailors may have seen in months.
I remember a strong sense of teamwork & a keen sense of belonging.
I remember when we got a new Bos'n for Port Ops & thinking "That's an officer who inspires me to do better, be better."
I remember our PT consisting of going to the base bowling alley & getting drunk while rolling several frames.
I remember a Port Ops party at Gab Gab beach, playing volleyball in the coral sand, reef walking, and stepping on a GD sea cucumber.
I remember feeling VERY teeny tiny when I saw my first "Gator Freighter" up close & being absolutely fascinated watching the SEAL's practicing in the harbor.
I remember being on watch the night the Admiral's gig was found on the bottom of the harbor & having to go "up the hill" for the board of inquiry. Sometimes, being a "dumb seaman" had it's advantages. All I had to do was report what I saw ... which was nothing.
I remember being jealous of my Seabee roommates in the enlisted barracks because they got to leave the island.
I remember getting orders to a destroyer in Everett, WA to be one of the first females in the Navy to serve aboard a warship ... and my now ex's hissy fit over the fact that he'd have to take care of our kids by himself if I ever went to sea & so he pressured me to get out, which my Bos'n (very much rightly so) told me that I would regret ... and I do to this day. Being Navy was my niche, my place in this world. I loved every minute of my time in & wish every day that I would have been smarter & stayed in.

Can't believe I remember this much of my time in this far in time from then ...

Now, I hardly claim my time in the Navy ... I only did a bit over half of my 4 yr enlistment thanks to an ex who, well ... he wasn't nice. Yeah, I served, but it doesn't feel like I really served. It wasn't really wartime in 93-95, I wasn't on board a ship. I was just on overseas shore duty. Maybe I'd feel differently had I served my full enlistment contract &/or made a career of the Navy.

Editing to add that I wish I could have gone through a Crossing the Line or Shellback ceremony ... or not. LOL!
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CDR Director, U.S. Navy Police
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Drastically, some for the better, some not.

During my first three deployments, we had nothing but snail mail on which to reply for comms with the home front. I remember my wife and I having to number our letters to one another, as they often got delivered out of order. It was tough, but we managed. That said, I would consider the Internet to have bettered our lives with regard to connecting with loved ones while away. I don't know, however, if the Internet is a benefit writ large...people are less active as a result of the Internet; something I believe is a disadvantage.

I do miss the days when the Navy allowed the use of alcohol in a responsible manner. I remember when PRTs used to be conducted on one day, not over a months-long length of time. The PRT for a command was scheduled on one day, you simply didn't take leave on that day. It was always on a Friday, first thing in the morning, after which you had a choice...go back to work, or head to the beach for a BBQ and kegger with everyone else.

Before I get bashed for the comment on having a command kegger, we took care of each other in those days...and with no need for a policy in place to mandate that we did so. We had volunteers to act as DDs and never had an issue with DUIs. It may not have been that way everywhere, but it was where I was stationed. That is, until the Navy decided that having such functions was a no-no. After that, people went off to do their own separate thing and as a result, I saw DUIs that we never had an issue with before. Just my own personal experiences.
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There have been so many changes I'm afraid I wouldn't recognize it if I were to just pop back in to AD. Thanks for the comment LCDR!
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PO3 (Join to see), looking at the dates you served, I think you'd recognize it as something completely different. It's still a great Navy, though!
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PO3 Tanis Huston
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It's funny my husband and I have this same conversation all the time, he went in the Navy in 92 and was out before I went in the Navy in 02. We go through our Navy gear and it's funny you can see the differences, he had the old blue Jean utilities and I have the new ones, shortly after I got out in 07 they went to the digital camies. When he was in boot camp there was no such thing as stress cards, yep the division that startd just after me had stress cards they could hold up if things where "to tough" in Feb 2002 we where up at 430 with reveille playing, by Mar a month in They has to stop because other divisions that where starting didn't have to get up until 6.
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PO3 Tanis Huston
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My hubby says the same thing, I wish I was able to have experienced them, utilities where not the most comfortable thing in the world and nor very adaptable to crawling around in an engine space!
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PO2 Michael Stinar
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Stress Cards ?
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PO1 John Miller
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Stress cards were an urban legend. I too heard all the stories about them, and even met a few newbies who said that "the division after mine had them" (sorry PO3 Tanis Huston but never actually saw them.

I even heard a few "sea stories" about boots trying to use their stress cards once they got to the fleet.

You know how a sea story starts, right? "This is no shit..."
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