Posted on Oct 30, 2013
1SG DeyShuan Shepherd
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Is there a point where leaders no longer need mentorship? Should mentorship be mandatory?
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SFC Motor Transport Operator
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I think everyone needs mentorship  and it should not matter where its coming from and should it be mandatory? I think so, it might improve us as a individuals and service members.
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1SG Eric Rice
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Mentorship is and always will be needed. As far as making it mandatory I do not believe that it should be and it should just happen without being mandated. Mentorship is a 360 degree asset regardless of rank. An Officer can be mentored by an NCO, a CSM can be mentored by a SGT, and from peer to peer. We too often think that mentorship has to be top down and not side to side or bottom up. In many situations is not direct and just happens by good Leaders doing what they do best. As NCO's we are in the people business and whether we know it or not are constantly mentoring those around us.   
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CMC Robert Young
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There is never a point in the development of a professional leader that they are not in need of a solid mentor. There will always be people who by virtue of experience and training know more and have greater insights. We cheat ourselves by not seeking them out and following in their footsteps. We are likewise required as leaders to pay that forward to those who are in our charge and care. All of the good commands of which I have been a part had structured mentor programs particularly for junior enlisted and newly commissioned officers. Having mandatory mentors with a well developed supporting program would benefit us all.
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MSG Alfred Aguilar
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I am all for mentorship, both parties benefit from it however, I don't believe it should be mandatory. It has more value if it is voluntary.
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I agree with the comments elsewhere here that leadership and mentorship are two distinctly unique categories, but aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. Mentorship should be ongoing and everyone, no matter how accomplished, can always continue to learn, tweak, and improve. Besides, best practices are always evolving, and so should we as technology, people, and the environment continue to evolve.

To sum it up in someone else's words; long ago, a mentor told me about a quote by Ray Kroc: "When you're green, your growing. When you're ripe, you rot."
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Lt Col Sexual Assault Prevention & Response Program Manager
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Here's a great article on mentoship from 99U. It's short, to the point, and has some great insight. (not to mention Mr Myiagi art). It's a good read for both mentors, and those searching for a mentor.
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SGT Richard H.
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Mentorship isn't important.


It's VITAL.
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SFC(P) Aircraft Maintenance Senior Sergeant
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I strongly believe that you are either born a leader or your not. Now let me expound on that statement. I don't think that the ability to be a natural leader can be taught I don't think NCOES schools produce leaders, and I don't think any amount of mentorship can make someone a leader. However I think mentorship is 100% vital in fine tuning leadership ability. I have benefited from some absolutely great NCO Leadership in my career and they have all mentored me along the way. I am now promotable to MSG and feel confident in my ability to become a 1SG but I will continue to seek out mentorship every step along the way. Mentorship is required in every rank, position, and career field. I am sure Gen Odienro still receives some mentorship from officers from his past as well as SMA Chandler seeking mentorship from his peers at the Senior enlisted level of the armed forces and his predecessors. Again I think true leaders are born not made but even the true leaders have mentorship to become great leaders. I don't think it ever stops nor should it. No one is perfect in this world and especially not in the Army. 

Recognizing the need for mentorship is one of a leaders strongest traits to self improvement. 
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Maj Chris Nelson
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Edited 12 y ago

Do you need air to live?  I believe the answer is a resounding yes.


 


Mentorship is Leadership.  There are 2 types of leadership; formal and informal.  Formal leaders are those that are assigned to a specific position with specific requirements. Informal are those around you that you respect and listen to.  Also remember that there are leaders and followers in any given situation...you do not have to always be the leader...nor always the follower. Mentorship can also be showing others how to perform in both roles.


 


Do you have to follow exactly everything that a mentor says? absolutely not.  Use it as a sounding board for ideas, learn new concepts, help you with the sniff test (does it smell like a bad idea?), will they tell you if something is on target or off?  Allow you to adjust target?


 


Right, wrong or indifferent, the POTUS is the highest person in the country for a formal position....do you think that they live in a vacuume and refuse to learn anything?  I hope not...they appoint a cabinet of advisors.  CEO of a company....similar.... As soon as you no longer need a mentor or refuse to BE a mentor, you may as well crawl up in the graveyard....you are no longer valuable to the bettering of humanity.

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PO1 Chad Huffer
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To the first question; I would say that there is always an area of someone’s
personal or professional life where they could benefit from mentorship.

 



For the question of "Should mentorship be mandatory?"



 

Absolutely not, when something is mandatory, especially something like
mentorship; all inherent benefits of the relationship are essentially stripped
away and it becomes just another futile exercise in "training documented
is training conducted".



 

In my experience some of the best mentoring takes place without ever
actually being requested or offered. It just happens...



 

Don't get me wrong; I'm not saying there is no place for official mentoring
but it should be offered as an option and not forced. If you need to force
mentorship, then you're already failing to be a good leader/role model.



 

One of the best leaders and mentors I know was an ETC (comms) at my first
command over 15 years ago.  He provided
some of the best mentorship to me and many others through his actions as a
leader and person.  He was never asked to
be an official mentor; he truly just led by example and definitely “practiced
what he preached”.  I know that for me
that was a very powerful influence, especially when he stood out from his peers
who typically had a philosophy of “do what I say, not what I do” toward junior personnel.  I remember that he would point out uniform discrepancies
of not only junior members but also his peers and senior officers alike, not in
a demeaning or disrespectful manor; but, just to bring it to their attention in
order to correct a mistake or as a learning opportunity.

 

On a side note before he left the command he did get picked up for LDO.



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