Posted on Apr 12, 2015
PV2 Violet Case
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These chemtrails are poison to our planet and the people. IF the trees all die so do we. Does anyone have any ideas how to stop them or is it already to late? I see them all the time up here now. This is also why Utah and places are banning wood smoke from wood stoves fire places and will probably go on to the rest of the states. Many people rely on that to survive for heat. I use it for back up only from the trees that die on my land I never cut them until they die. But how can we honestly stop this before it is to late. Please research this stuff more before answering my question. You, your family and our planet depend on this. And yes Monsanto is involved with the chemicals being sprayed out of the planes and do the pilots no they are being exposed.
I feel these questions involve the leaders, the Fitness, and all people on the planet earth because it does.

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/category/chemtrails/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPnWaBsMYnY


I would like to add another link above which is testimony by many many famous people who know exactly what they are talking about. Our lives are being changed and if you would please really listen to them you may think about this with more openness to the truth.
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CPT Jack Durish
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I've listened to the evidence and it seems compelling but for one simple fact: There are more trees in North America today than when the first Europeans arrived.
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PV2 Violet Case
PV2 Violet Case
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I was meaning up here our gardens are dying and the trees, But psychiatrist's both mine my daughter's and grand children's have had to explain the genetics of how the chemicals , toxins, pcb's and dioxins work and how they could have affected them. Three on ssdi right now teased badly in school for disabilities from one daughter but 5 of hers have troubles the 5ht one only so far shows the hypertension, and 3 out of 4 of my other daughters were flown to ICU life line when born and still have a few troubles. So yes they are smart enough and most teenagers to look things up on line and ask questions. Some questions I ask here may be how they ask me and showing links that we have found connecting anything with Monsanto, yes we are a full family afraid of Monsanto and anyone in connection with them and for good cause. I have to finish a letter to Senator Al Franken. We discussed how to help veterans and to help taxes, I had called and talked to them all and asked if it would be cheaper for the government to just pay for local care instead of travel and hotels for veterans that live farther away. And wouldn't it be better on the disabled veteran for their pain and the way they may suffer from said trips so they can go locally. I have been sent a letter to see how it has been helping me out. Well it only goes for 48 hr notices and not for er. But my troubles always end in ER because I never no when I can drop or bleed or what ever will happen. So we had discussed help with sites like these. I will be sure to let them no how great it has been working out. But the ones who were true will be noticed for their hard work above the call like a great soldier should be for the administration of this site. Have you Sir been up to the northern MN area lately miles of trees are down all over. We are not used to the tons of smog like the city lives. And the questions just came at me about is it true they are going to try to make it illegal to use rain water and illegal to trade our garden food and seeds. People are used to the old me doing petitions to keep our rights that is why I am known by so many in office. I did the petitions for gun rights too yrs ago. People forget or just do not want to accept anymore then I like it that I just can't do these things alone anymore. But it doesn't stop me from trying to get help from people I thought would be professional. Ok instead of say I am spreading conspiracy how about saying Violet did you mean are the stories I have heard on this true they stabbed me. I feel already betrayed enough from the government and Monsanto but had kept faith in fellow veterans and military people. Now I don't no, will have to think on it more I guess. Thumbs down with not a single care, what, or why was this question sincerely asked or how would I feel if in her shoes, I feel like a wounded soldier shot many times laying in a field and watching people who could have helped run and desert me. I did not really understand a chemtrail or contrail or geotrail but was wanting to learn to many big words to look up was bring stress that I thought may be easily fixed here.
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PV2 Violet Case
PV2 Violet Case
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I wish I could post up pictures of the loss of trees just faced today all threw beltrami forest, along I 29 we were in evacuation mode yesterday until 8pm. Have not heard a word on how it started. I just hope nothing takes out Grand forks area where the drones are manned from. Cause it was not to far from that today on I29 Just jump over to face book and check it out.
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PV2 Violet Case
PV2 Violet Case
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over 2000 acres burnt out up here yesterday and not sure how many miles along interstate I29. I think there should be some more playing with mother nature she seems to be loving it.
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PV2 Violet Case , I've done this myself.

Just into college, I went through what I call a paranoid phase. I bought into everything Alex Jones said hook, line, and sinker. It was very easy to be taken in by everything, and it all sounds so plausible. To the intelligent-yet-uneducated person, it seems self-evident was presented with a compelling story. Couple that with the fact that companies are selfish and the government is a power-hungry machine on its face, what else is there to think.

Conspiracies do exists, and there are powerful organizations that are far from benevolent. But you you have to remain skeptical, not only of these entities, but of those that might manipulate you against them in their own search for power.

As for chemtrails, there's no evidence to support they actually are chemicals. Reputable studies have shown they are nothing. Could airlines be conspiring with chemical manufacturers and the government to kill or sterilize us all? Sure, it's possible. But the evidence just isn't there.

I remain paranoid, to be honest. But I let reason be my guide. Not a perfect system, but it's helped a lot.
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PV2 Violet Case
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Thank you SPC Kyle Kinas, I know my fear of what happened to me at Fort McClellan and Monsanto does make me afraid I am human. But how sick it has me, actually they say surprised I am not dead yet. This to me is like Cancer a person being told they have it would make them try to avoid things that cause it, find cures for it and fight for life. I asked them to do a brain scan about a yr and half ago. Because 3 yrs ago when I went threw a bad downfall and almost died my memory and thinking was not what it was anymore. But I was in denial first then was in hopes it was just allergies or something. Then they gave me the big bang that what happened at Ft Mac will never go away. I spent a yr researching the facts of the chemicals, toxins, dioxins and Pcb's and the more it made me cry and fall apart so I stopped did you read about it from the news? Not many of us that i can find and the ones I have are all sick like me. I don't want really sympathy just a bit of love and compassion before I go. And to try to stay as long as I can my grandbabies grow every yr. My 10 yr old grandson was there the one time I had tremors and had to go to the hospital. When they took me back I heard him ask his momma is grandma going to die. I don't get to see them as often that bothers me they are my babies but I understand it is hard on them too. I think they are as scared as I am. But I do my best to stay out of any chemicals that may cause the others in me to act up. I appreciate you saying you have some paranoia at times too. It helps me realize I am human. But at this time trying to let reason be my guide doesn't work. Because I can not see any reason why they have to make such things to kill like this and why if they are going to make it why wouldn't they have a cure for it. What if something like this happened when making it or moving it or storing it like it did at ft mac. Don't they think they would need a cure. What is the reason for that no cure tells me even more not to trust them and be afraid and that they do not care about the people that serve. So darn right i will admit to some paranoia but still can't find reason to let this happen not to just FT Mac but Camp Lajuene and now stuff is coming up from Iraq for our guys too. It is a messed up system for sure. But once it allows it to go to far it can not help undo what it has done always. So decisions of such importance must be taken seriously , carefully and with a back up plan to fix if wrong.
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Col Joseph Lenertz
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As Elaine (Julia Louis-Dreyfus) from Seinfeld might say, "Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake!"
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PV2 Violet Case
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDvQT5sfcJM what do you think now Col Joseph Lenertz,
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Col Joseph Lenertz
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I think Doug Rowland is a very smart NASA scientist who has done the vast majority of his work using sounding rockets to analyze the magnetosphere and ionosphere. He later admitted he was referring to the lithium payload and chemicals in the solid rocket thruster engines on his sounding rockets that were producing the lines in the sky. They also introduce harmful chemicals into the atmosphere as they burn, as every solid rocket does, but this represents a tiny fraction of the amount of pollution generated by a single coal power plant in China, for example. Here is where his admission they are real gets debunked: https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-nasa-scientist-admitting-chemtrails-for-decades-actually-sounding-rockets.2009/
PV2 Violet Case , I wish you only the best. I have flown as a pilot for the Air Force for 15 years and spent another 10 years as an Astronautical Engineer. My concentration in my graduate work was cooling the throat area of rocket nozzles. I've had access to lots of information (unclassified and classified) in my area of expertise, and I have seen no definitive evidence for the chemtrails argument. There just isn't any. But that doesn't mean I think you are lying. I believe you when you say you are sick and your trees are dying. I do not know the causes of these two things, or if they are related at all. I just don't believe chemtrails did it. Best wishes to you.
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PV2 Violet Case
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Col Joseph Lenertz, the scientist at nasa did say they used the word chemtrails and then stopped in the daytime. I did say many times in the thread that I did word it wrong I have never asked a question of this type before had much going on at the time. And not being a scientist those big words like magnetosphere and ionesphere I did not do well in science. I no at time things I say may sound off but I promise I can normally give you proof of what I no for fact. But when say something with a question mark or ask about something that means I don't know for sure what is going on other then what I am told and I like to study things in and out and there are times when a few people may find it funny that I am afraid of Monsanto as many people are beside me to. They will be sure to add Monsanto's name it all to stir a pot that in away is already been boiling awhile. So I have anxiety about them. And at times first they prove one thing at Ft. McClellan then they say another and it is a mess All I no is what has happened there was not good. Also glad to hear that Doug Rowland really is a scientist in Nasa. I have not doubt that something has to be done because our trees are not only dying but we just lost across MN about 6000 acres in all of our trees by fire. But thank you for your comments here. I just clicked on the link you have and this one and they are different

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDvQT5sfcJM
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SGT Tyler G.
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I just facepalmed so hard that it gave me a concussion.
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SGT Tyler G.
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Facepalm
This is a facepalm.
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PV2 Violet Case
PV2 Violet Case
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That sort of looks like the expression my x had when trying to explain why he was caught sleeping with our neighbor. hummmmmmm.
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This has been debunked so many times it's ridiculous. Please don't spread conspiracy theories on this forum.
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PV2 Violet Case
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SFC Jeremy Brandon I am sorry I was just asking about what a civilian person sent me and I new this would be the place to try to learn the truth I do agree sometimes I do not comprehend as my mind should anymore but this is why I thought this would be the place to ask. Who else in the civilian world would no as much as you all do? Again I do apologize sometimes the way my questions come out. But I know what happened to me at Fort McClellan was not a conspiracy theory it is fact and even the VA has admitted that. It has been a rough road and civilians do not have answers and when I see things I thought this would be the place to find out about it. I was not trying to start conspiracy theories just want to know what is true. Sorry I bothered you.
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PO3 Steven Sherrill
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Sorry, but if you want to worry about the harm being done to the planet, worry about the after effects of the nuclear testing in Nevada and the Pacific; the rate at which humans are eliminating plant and animal species from existence; strip mining; pesticides...

If anybody needs me I am going to go hide in my bubble until the end of the world, or the zombie apocalypse which ever comes first.
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PO2 Disabled Veteran Outreach Program
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I excommunicated my own brother over this.
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http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/air-force-bombshell-admits-they-can-control-weather-haarp/

The best theory I have on chemtrails, or contrails as some would like to call them is the government as a unit is trying to control the weather to create an optimum climate to grow food for the growing masses. I'd like to debate anyone that might disagree.
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SSgt Forensic Meteorological Consultant
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The Air Force has a lot of credibility here. For example they keep cutting away Air Force Weather to make the world a better place. LOL> Air Force brass seem to think the Military doesn't need good forecasters. Well good, use the civilians who are now spread to thin to produce quality forecasts. Tonight is a case in point.
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That is some funny stuff. Funnier than a ping pong ball in an open blender.....lol
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PV2 Violet Case
PV2 Violet Case
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SSgt L O1 and P03 Steven Sherrill , yes this man was so funny and look what happened to this amazing man. I wonder if he had people treat him the same way and that is why it happened to him. My health leaves me kind of living in a bubble but fat does not.
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SFC Mark Merino
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I like to keep my mind open and get my news fromboth the left and right wings and everything in between. Remember, smoking doesn't cause cancer, Agent Orange is harmless, MEK is safe enough to gargle with, etc.
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SPC David Hannaman
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High Fructose Corn Syrup. Not that it's particularly more dangerous than sugar... but they put it in everything, and the effects are national obesity.
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Highest source of lead comes from HFCS....you may want to reconsider your conclusion SPC David Hannaman
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SFC Mark Merino
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How could I not mention good old DEET?
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PV2 Violet Case
PV2 Violet Case
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what may I ask SSG (P) Michael LoGiudice DC is the HFCS? I have been trying very hard to eat organically and try to avoid so many things. I do not use Nutrisweet, honey is my sugar if I use it. I have been living as organically as possible here. Maybe that is why I still live. I try to watch out for msg and non hormone and non GMO foods but they are getting harder to come by up here. Most of my foods have to be done in juicers or smoothies because of stomach. I want so much to be better I am sorry it is non of you peoples fault and now they say my auto immune condition is making my body fight against itself and my medications. Upon calling the hospital last night it is hard to be told antibiotics don't help anymore and there really is nothing more we no what we can do for you other then take organs that stop working and put me on high blood pressure meds to help the heart attacks and ease the headaches. I just want to try to protect myself as much as I can and learn what I can to be true or not after being lied to for so long already about Monsanto. I had hoped coming here to find my friends from FT Mac. None, Maybe even tho civilian's may not be correct on all things but I have almost 500 people on facebook who at least have love and compassion and while searching for good honest answers and help here many have worried at facebook so I will do you all a great favor now that I have got it out of my heart, off my chest and got a few answers here which I am grateful for. I will go to facebook where I do get the compassion needed till my days end. But I am determined to spend those days at home have seen to many days at hospitals a matter of fact my birthday this month at the doctors appt again this year. But please as I go do the next soldiers or veterans a favor the ones who are not as strong as I try my hardest to ne treat them with respect cause they may be the next suicide you get. But I promise your insults and comments to me will not cause me to do that. But anyone with similar problems that want to come here I will be sure to tell them to be very careful that there are some good but just be careful. take care all i will still be praying harder for you then for myself.
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SSgt Forensic Meteorological Consultant
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What's hilarious is all their hands going up in the air like they were in grade school! I bet a lot of them were abducted by aliens. I am think I am going to watch the X-Files. My ringtone is as follows...

https://youtu.be/HQoRXhS7vlU
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PV2 Violet Case
PV2 Violet Case
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Where are you coming up with this stupid crap SSgt L O1 I never once said anything about aliens. But it has been proven that there are things being sprayed in the sky so what I got my answer about about it coming from the government manmade things do you think it makes me feel secure to no that Monsanto has its hands in yet more things that made me and thousands of other sick from Ft McClellan Al. I can not believe that this site is allowing you to act in such an unprofessional manner and I will address it to them. If you were the one sick from Monsanto you would have the same worries and mistrust. You SGG are a child and I am so glad I never served under you.
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SSgt Forensic Meteorological Consultant
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I was not alluding to your specifically.
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