Posted on Jan 6, 2023
How quick does it take for an officer to be separated for nonpromotion?
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** EDITED ** gave link to wrong AR (updated now).
That's a very open-ended question 2LT (Join to see).
First, a lot depends on rank and which component (AC, ARNG or USAR).
If you're talking about an O1 in any component that failed to be promoted to O2 - the military could kick you out the door immediately (and WILL kick you out the door if you don't get promoted within the next 18 months).
If you're talking a higher grade - the military doesn't discharge you for the primary reason of not being promoted, although there might be an underlying reason that you are discharged instead (i.e., the DUI someone got might keep them being promoted, but they are discharged for substandard performance or lack of judgement).
For those higher grades, if you're twice passed over, the Army will put you in a board to see if you are 'Selectively Continued' (SELCON). They may keep you if they feel you can still contribute to the service. If you are not selected, then you will be discharged.
If none of this hit upon your question specifics, consult the below referenced regulations - they should have the specific answers you're looking for (or some back and give more details).
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* AR 600-8-24 (Officer Transfers and Discharges) https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/pdf/web/ARN3140_AR600-8-24_FINAL.pdf
* AR 600-8-29 (Officer Promotions) - https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/ARN30301-AR_600-8-29-000-WEB-1.pdf
That's a very open-ended question 2LT (Join to see).
First, a lot depends on rank and which component (AC, ARNG or USAR).
If you're talking about an O1 in any component that failed to be promoted to O2 - the military could kick you out the door immediately (and WILL kick you out the door if you don't get promoted within the next 18 months).
If you're talking a higher grade - the military doesn't discharge you for the primary reason of not being promoted, although there might be an underlying reason that you are discharged instead (i.e., the DUI someone got might keep them being promoted, but they are discharged for substandard performance or lack of judgement).
For those higher grades, if you're twice passed over, the Army will put you in a board to see if you are 'Selectively Continued' (SELCON). They may keep you if they feel you can still contribute to the service. If you are not selected, then you will be discharged.
If none of this hit upon your question specifics, consult the below referenced regulations - they should have the specific answers you're looking for (or some back and give more details).
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* AR 600-8-24 (Officer Transfers and Discharges) https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/pdf/web/ARN3140_AR600-8-24_FINAL.pdf
* AR 600-8-29 (Officer Promotions) - https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/ARN30301-AR_600-8-29-000-WEB-1.pdf
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CPT Lawrence Cable
LTC (Join to see) - Selcon hasn't been around that long and not everyone gets selected, sir.
At one point, they were allowing Active Officers that got passed over to transfer to the Reserves, don't know if they still do that anymore. It always struck me as a bit unfair to the Reserve Officers.
Engineer units caught the first part of integrating National Guard and Reserve units to do Active Duty Tours. Even though we were Mechanized Divisional Engineers, we supported a number of Civil Action Programs though out Central America and were starting to get pulled into the Peacekeepers in the Balkans. There is a lot more of that than there was when I came out, but there were tours out there if you looked around.
At one point, they were allowing Active Officers that got passed over to transfer to the Reserves, don't know if they still do that anymore. It always struck me as a bit unfair to the Reserve Officers.
Engineer units caught the first part of integrating National Guard and Reserve units to do Active Duty Tours. Even though we were Mechanized Divisional Engineers, we supported a number of Civil Action Programs though out Central America and were starting to get pulled into the Peacekeepers in the Balkans. There is a lot more of that than there was when I came out, but there were tours out there if you looked around.
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2LT (Join to see)
I am not shy of continuing service. The day I enlisted the plan was a career and was the same when I commissioned and remains the same. I have no negative feelings towards going Guard or Reserve. And if the Army wants me to be a chem officer in the middle rural Louisiana then I will do that to the best of my ability. If only that could be reflected in my file.
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LTC (Join to see)
CPT Lawrence Cable I was passed over once for LTC and left active for the RC and I'm currently on orders that take me over 20 years active. There's a big difference between waiting to be pushed out and making a path for yourself.
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It may depend if the Service is over strength in the officer’s MOS or rank. During the post Vietnam drawdown, the Services held boards for 1LT and Capt (under 7 years of service) to identify officers for release. The Flight I was in lost one 1LT and one Capt out of 12 instructor pilots. They were given 90 days to be gone. Their flying stopped immediately.
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