Posted on Dec 31, 2015
How should a situation in the MCX about wearing a cover in the building be handled properly?
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How should a situation in the MCX about wearing a cover in the building be handled properly?
NEITHER MYSELF OR MY WIFE ARE IN THE HABIT OF TELLING A LIE OR MAKING UP A STORY - IT HAPPENED! FOCUS ON THE QUESTION - NOT WETHER YOU BELIEVE THE INCIDENT HAPPENED OR NOT!
RP Members was this handled properly by the Junior Officer, SgtMaj, or the mother? What would you have done?
THIS WAS A REAL SITUATION THAT TOOK PLACE YESTERDAY 12/30/2015
CORRECTION: I've receive collaboration from another lady who also had firsthand knowledge of this incident in the MCX - "The "youth" was not an AD USMC, but part of a group of Young Marines. Her description of this group is that it is one for troubled youth to attempt to instill discipline and maybe bring them into the fold."
I apologize to all of those individuals that I stood firm on with, that it was young Marine Private (based on all the information I received), but the discussion, question, and feedback on how the situation was handled by the Junior Officer, Sgt Mgr, and Mother have been outstanding - that I don't apologize for - thanks
If anything, I thoroughly enjoyed the story and my wife called me at home immediately following the incident - she knew I would enjoy hearing about it. I just said, "that SgtMaj owns that young Marine!"
RP Members this one comes from the wife that works at Camp Pendleton, CA Marine Base in the MCX.
A young "Youth" Marine was in the check-out line with his mother and "CORRECTION" (put his cover on inside!) He was approached by a AD Marine (Junior Officer) and asked to remove the cover. Immediately the young "Youth" Marine took up the defensive and asked the junior officer "who the F*** are you?" The Junior Officer then got into the young "Youth" Marine's face and told him to have some respect and remove the cover - it escalated into a shouting match in the check-out line in the MCX. Coming from the back of the store there was a loud roar from a Sergeant Major in the Marines (built like a tank according to my wife). He bellowed, "both of you shut your mouth there are families in here!" The MCX went silent and several employees and Marines hit the deck (no kidding). The SgtMaj came to the front and grabbed the young "Youth" Marine the by collar escorting him and the Junior Officer out of the MCX with the Young "Youth" Marine's mother yelling, "don't touch my boy!"
NEITHER MYSELF OR MY WIFE ARE IN THE HABIT OF TELLING A LIE OR MAKING UP A STORY - IT HAPPENED! FOCUS ON THE QUESTION - NOT WETHER YOU BELIEVE THE INCIDENT HAPPENED OR NOT!
RP Members was this handled properly by the Junior Officer, SgtMaj, or the mother? What would you have done?
THIS WAS A REAL SITUATION THAT TOOK PLACE YESTERDAY 12/30/2015
CORRECTION: I've receive collaboration from another lady who also had firsthand knowledge of this incident in the MCX - "The "youth" was not an AD USMC, but part of a group of Young Marines. Her description of this group is that it is one for troubled youth to attempt to instill discipline and maybe bring them into the fold."
I apologize to all of those individuals that I stood firm on with, that it was young Marine Private (based on all the information I received), but the discussion, question, and feedback on how the situation was handled by the Junior Officer, Sgt Mgr, and Mother have been outstanding - that I don't apologize for - thanks
If anything, I thoroughly enjoyed the story and my wife called me at home immediately following the incident - she knew I would enjoy hearing about it. I just said, "that SgtMaj owns that young Marine!"
RP Members this one comes from the wife that works at Camp Pendleton, CA Marine Base in the MCX.
A young "Youth" Marine was in the check-out line with his mother and "CORRECTION" (put his cover on inside!) He was approached by a AD Marine (Junior Officer) and asked to remove the cover. Immediately the young "Youth" Marine took up the defensive and asked the junior officer "who the F*** are you?" The Junior Officer then got into the young "Youth" Marine's face and told him to have some respect and remove the cover - it escalated into a shouting match in the check-out line in the MCX. Coming from the back of the store there was a loud roar from a Sergeant Major in the Marines (built like a tank according to my wife). He bellowed, "both of you shut your mouth there are families in here!" The MCX went silent and several employees and Marines hit the deck (no kidding). The SgtMaj came to the front and grabbed the young "Youth" Marine the by collar escorting him and the Junior Officer out of the MCX with the Young "Youth" Marine's mother yelling, "don't touch my boy!"
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yes it was handled correctly by the NCO, he actually probably saved the career of the young marine by taking the situation out of the hands of the officer
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Reminds me of when my Brother was stationed at HQMC and was going through a divorce, with predictable results. He went out and got an earring. He forgot he had it on when heading to work, and a Colonel in the elevator told him "Gunny, you're missing an earring"
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As a civvy, can some people answer some questions I have?
1. I've seen people saying that the LT should have found an NCO to do a correction. Is there any reason for that? It seems that any rank could correct an issue as mundane as a cover indoors.
2. Why was that young Marine not whooped by the NCO? I'm 22 now and I'd run for my life if I told my dad to fuck off, and I'd expect to not have a job anymore if I told my boss the same thing.
1. I've seen people saying that the LT should have found an NCO to do a correction. Is there any reason for that? It seems that any rank could correct an issue as mundane as a cover indoors.
2. Why was that young Marine not whooped by the NCO? I'm 22 now and I'd run for my life if I told my dad to fuck off, and I'd expect to not have a job anymore if I told my boss the same thing.
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First the officer should have identified himself that way the enlisted marine will know who's approaching him. Once identification has been made on both sides, the junior officer can then properly correct the marine without consequences of disrespecting an officer.
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I live in Emerald Isle, NC. I have MCAS Cherry Point, MCAS New River and MCB Camp Lejeune, I can believe it. The attitude of the young Marines I see in the area is a poor reflection of the United States Marine Corp. In the past you could have looked with hard and never found a Marine in public with out true blue Marine Corp bearing. I am sad to say it is no longer the case.
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The situation was handled by correctly by the SGTMAJ. He diffused the situation and separated the individuals. I am sure that the young Marine will receive extra duty at a minimum. That said someone also need to talk to the junior officer the proper actions to take when his authority is challenged.
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No. Absolutely not. That Marine should be N.J.P. ed for " unbecoming a Marine.. "
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Even money says the kid is a chapter case awaiting discharge and Mama is there to take him home.
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The CSM did what he needed to do to stop the nonsense. The young recruit should be completely schooled, and probably discharged, if he can not respect someone coming over and asking him to comply with standing policy. The officer should not have allowed himself to get into a shouting match. Simply take the man's name, unit, and commander. We already know his new rank. The mother had zero to say - in fact, if she was not a dependent she probably should not have been in there to begin with.
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