Posted on Apr 6, 2018
How should I handle a revolving issue with an E-6 regarding my haircut?
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So I have always cut my hair the same way which is combed over on the top and faded on the sides and is in regs. Well I had my NCOIC (SSG) tell me that it wasn't in regs. and that he didn't like the way it appeared. I cut it a little shorter on the top and when to my TL (SGT) and she agreed that there is nothing wrong with it. That SSG told me I had to have a meeting with him and the 1SG but the 1SG never came, it was just myself and the SSG again. He told me again how it wasn't within regs. and looks like I'm a rebel. Few days later, (last night) I saw that SSG and before I could even say hello her said, "Take your hat off, let me see your hair." I showed him and he said, "You better fix it by tomorrow or else you know what'll happen." (He wants my to get a basic training cut) Now today, my TL (SGT) just came into my office and said that I have to go see that SSG at 1500 and that he refused to tell her what it was about. I know it'll be about my hair again. My SGT told me to tell him that I understand that it's his opinion that he doesn't like it but I would like to get a second look by the 1SG before I shave my head. Can any Senior Leaders help me on this one? I'm not just some Joe trying to start problems. I'm squared away, show up to work on time, have no negative counselings, and to top it off...The 1SG saw my hair the same way when I first met him and he said, "Look at Pavlock, his hair is always on point!" Someone please give me some advice!
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Well as i see it the Corps has a 0-3 regulation and or anything in between. Not sure there was ever enough length for a comb over. Heres the point if its touching your ears and your a dude its a no, girl yeah sure. But since an E6 carries more weight you suould consider looking at a style that puts you in regs yet still looks squared away. The military is not a fashion oriented engine. Its about simplicity of purpose. You should be able to grab your go bag and board a plane without havingbto worry about getting a cut in a weeknor so. 2 cents.
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I’d been ETS’ed into inactive reserves, but remained in the Flying Club at the local base (FGGM). Was coming back into the Flight Hut after a cross-country, and ran into a bird colonel coming out. He took one look at me, and went into rabid rant mode (in all fairness, this was the 70’s, I had been out almost two years without ever cutting my hair, and my hair by this time WAS over my collar by well over three inches. He took one look, went into a frenzy, and barked “YOU! GET A HAIRCUT!!” I smiled and said, “Thank you SIR, but I don’t think so.” We had “further discussions”, and he went further ballistic when he found out I was in INactive reserves, and not subject to his mindset of haircut regulations. There’s now apparently a rule in my honor that to be in the flying club, you have to be Active Reserves!
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You cut your own hair? Well it may well be your 1stSgt sees something you can't. But I'm not siding with him/her. It does sound like your 1stSgt has a thing for you. I had a 1stSgt that was like with me, but not about my hair. You've got to see both your company first sgt and company commander, for their decisions about your hair cut.
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AS a yound spldier in the 80's the Army Standard (long cut) hair cut was just a little too short for me. So I always road the edge of the line and had a few weekly hair cuts. Even with that I was near always told to get a hair cut. I soon learned that if I got a (medium cut) w/ Block taper back it would be a hair cut that was managable with a cut every tweo weeks and no complaints from the Chain of Command. Try to exceed the minimual but shaving you head is gone too far for me.
As for your NCO's - your Chain of Command is a road that goes both ways. If your TL is your immediant supervisor Who is this SSG(?) PLT SSG? Then the PLT SSG needs to have the TL manage you. And in this I would ask that my TL, PLT SSG, & 1SG meet with me (after I got a hair cut) and asked for an inspection. Let them all agree on the cut or not. If not ask for an adequate advisable cut limit and get it done. However you have to ALWAYS maintain that cut, even if you have to get it cut weekly. (BTW - DO NOT use a barrecks barber!!!)
As for your NCO's - your Chain of Command is a road that goes both ways. If your TL is your immediant supervisor Who is this SSG(?) PLT SSG? Then the PLT SSG needs to have the TL manage you. And in this I would ask that my TL, PLT SSG, & 1SG meet with me (after I got a hair cut) and asked for an inspection. Let them all agree on the cut or not. If not ask for an adequate advisable cut limit and get it done. However you have to ALWAYS maintain that cut, even if you have to get it cut weekly. (BTW - DO NOT use a barrecks barber!!!)
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Well let me tell you this. Depending on how cowboy you are, and how honest this E6 is there will be one final recourse for you. It doesn’t require IG, and will pretty well protect you against retaliation assuming your COC isn’t corrupt past 1SG. If you’re as squared away as you say this will test the heck out of it. I did this for my PT socks. Your hail maker of a defense rests in the Manual for courts martial; article 138. This worked for me since a had a shit load of PT socks from basic and full calf length socks is what they required. Flamboyant as hell if you ask me, but I was determined to burn through that 20 some pack of socks. I only had one 1SG knock on me to require a 138 memorandum written up about it. Why does this work so well? Much like being found guilty of any other crime it destroys your career. Why does this protect you? Because the nature of a 138 is per se a notice to void harassment. The Army doesn’t give a fuck about your SSG as much as it doesn’t care about you on a grand scale. What it cares about are well functioning soldiers And abuse free leaders. For me every time I got pulled aside for my stupid socks at the end of the recourse I got more respect from top than before the sock shinanigans. I actually got a few SFC’s to join in and one I know of that still wears full calf length socks.
Now that I think about. Poor soldiers probably had to buy socks to match his haha.
Now that I think about. Poor soldiers probably had to buy socks to match his haha.
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I’m curious, what kind of hairstyle does your E-6 NCOIC have? AR 670-1. “These are intended to represent the MINIMUM standard. The standard can be raised upon, but cannot be lowered.” That was what I was always told, anyway. It’s easier to comply with his “lawful order” than to argue and be right. Even if you are right, he has the ability to make your life a living hell. Go “High and Tight”. Embrace it! Live it, Love it, act like it’s the greatest thing you’ve ever done. He’ll get bored and move on to someone else. Challenge him, and you’ll be his target for the rest of your time together.
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Based on what you have stated n if all is fact, then I would venture to say that your SSG has a “Bone to Pick with you” thus it is a personal issue. So in order to clarify the issue I would request an auidience with your SSG’s Supv, or 1SG depending on your NCO Chain Of Command. If the Sr up says your a Go then your a Go n your SSG needs a “Coming to God” Mtg with his 1st Line Supv, 1SG n or poss your SGM/CSM. Because ur SSG has a dire personal problem n you are not the one to fix it..
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