Posted on Apr 6, 2018
How should I handle a revolving issue with an E-6 regarding my haircut?
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So I have always cut my hair the same way which is combed over on the top and faded on the sides and is in regs. Well I had my NCOIC (SSG) tell me that it wasn't in regs. and that he didn't like the way it appeared. I cut it a little shorter on the top and when to my TL (SGT) and she agreed that there is nothing wrong with it. That SSG told me I had to have a meeting with him and the 1SG but the 1SG never came, it was just myself and the SSG again. He told me again how it wasn't within regs. and looks like I'm a rebel. Few days later, (last night) I saw that SSG and before I could even say hello her said, "Take your hat off, let me see your hair." I showed him and he said, "You better fix it by tomorrow or else you know what'll happen." (He wants my to get a basic training cut) Now today, my TL (SGT) just came into my office and said that I have to go see that SSG at 1500 and that he refused to tell her what it was about. I know it'll be about my hair again. My SGT told me to tell him that I understand that it's his opinion that he doesn't like it but I would like to get a second look by the 1SG before I shave my head. Can any Senior Leaders help me on this one? I'm not just some Joe trying to start problems. I'm squared away, show up to work on time, have no negative counselings, and to top it off...The 1SG saw my hair the same way when I first met him and he said, "Look at Pavlock, his hair is always on point!" Someone please give me some advice!
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Is he just targeting you and,are others under him getting away with longer hair? Is he consistent with his enforcment? If everyone else has their hair cut short to his standards- best get it cut.
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The easiest way is to print the part of the regs, hand it to the SSG, and politely ask them to point out where in the regs your hair is not in compliance.
When it comes down to it, there's nothing your SSG can do as long as you are in compliance. Counseling statements? To what end? JAG certainly isn't going to support an Article 15 for counseling statements that are out of line with Army policy and regulation.
When it comes down to it, there's nothing your SSG can do as long as you are in compliance. Counseling statements? To what end? JAG certainly isn't going to support an Article 15 for counseling statements that are out of line with Army policy and regulation.
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I had a SSGT in the Corps who just did not like me and made it his hobby to harass me when he could. I found the best way to live with it was to stay away from him as much as possible and make every effort to impress my Sgt Maj, who was a great man and Marine, not by kissing butt instead volunteering to work for him always looking squared away and making sure he knew I loved the Corps and PT. Eventually that SSGT got what he deserved because he was a piece of dirt. Looking back now (I'm 56) I would do whatever this clown wants. He will only be in your life for a time. Your hair will grow back. Don't let this dick ruin your time serving your country.
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Go to the meeting with a copy of AR 670-1. It sounds like his "opinion" is not justified. Bring your TL with you as a witness and possibly someone from JAG
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If it is fadish(which it is), it is out of regs. If your NCOIC says it is out of regs; it is out of regs. So i say stop worrying about looking pretty, and play Army.
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Talk to your 1SGT, and make sure that he's present at the meeting. It sounds like a huge case of opinion. I don't know army regs st all, but Navy regs state, along with the typical length, color, ect requirements, that anything considered 'faddish' (yes that is the term used last I looked) is prohibited. As you can imagine, the line gives commanders quite a bit of discretion one way or the other on what is acceptable. One commander may have no problem with a certain style, such as what you prefer, while another will. Ultimately the final word is not your SSG's, but hopefully it doesnt have to go beyond your 1SGT. Should this continue after meeting with your SSG and 1SGT, I would either cut your losses, or see if theres another reason the guy wont get off your back.
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Everybody else has already said it... choose your battles wisely. You wanna be an E4 or E5? Right or wrong, you don’t need to die on this hill. It’s a freaken’ haircut. Maybe you’ll ETS shortly and don’t care what your immediate leadership thinks. You’ll get a job one day and have a boss that wants you to comply about something or another. You can comply or go find another job.
As an NCO or as a civilian boss, there are about a million things a guy could do to torpedo you and you’d never know it. Don’t be so quick to “fight for your rights” over something stupid.
As an NCO or as a civilian boss, there are about a million things a guy could do to torpedo you and you’d never know it. Don’t be so quick to “fight for your rights” over something stupid.
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So what I am getting from this is you got told to cut your hair, you didn't want to regardless of it being in regs or not, took it to 1sg because you needed someone to back you? Just follow orders. It's easier. He wasn't being unlawful, inhumane, embarrasing, or belittling you. You was giving you a. Order to do something. What your SSG right? No. But do it anyways
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If you really wanted to get on his bad side, have a copy of the reg in your pocket, if you wanted to do what you’re supposed to do, change it. The reg states it’s up to the supervisor to determine what is appropriate or not.
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Based on that picture you posted, it friggin' looks fine. In fact, that's a very classic comb-over that works very well for people with your hairline (mine is similar). People are getting way too hung up on the tapered thing, but when you keep it longer on the top, that's a good comb-over, and that is your natural part in the hair. Tapered is so widely open to interpretation; your 1SG nailed that on the head. Anyway, it's clearly not "faddish," looks well-maintained, the sides and back look good, and you use product to ensure a presentable appearance.
Good thing your SSG isn't in aviation, he'd have a STROKE if he saw all of our hair.
Good thing your SSG isn't in aviation, he'd have a STROKE if he saw all of our hair.
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