Posted on Aug 7, 2017
How should someone handle a disrespectful PFC (as a SPC)?
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When I was in my first company, I had problems with a PFC in a different squad who thought it was perfectly fine to openly disrespect me even though I outranked him. I couldn't correct him, as his squad leader wasn't very fond of me and gladly let it happen. Now I've switched companies, but the same PFC continues to approach me with disrespect and threatens to get his leadership if I defend myself
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So let him get his leadership. You have a Junior Troop being openly disrespectful to a senior rank. If his leadership sticks behind that kind of behavior, then you've already identified an even bigger problem. Toxic leadership breeds future toxic leaders.
He is approaching you to start trouble, so sure, get his leadership involved. He needs to be put back in place.
He is approaching you to start trouble, so sure, get his leadership involved. He needs to be put back in place.
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If their leadership is allowing this to happen then take YOUR leadership to them and their leadership. If it continues after that little pow wow, take it up the chain until you get it resolved. The worst thing you can do is nothing. This will fester until it takes over an entire unit. As the Bible says, "A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump."
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Write that soldier up. And do it every time he does it. And if his squad leader attempts to sway your division in anyway then write him up as well. It is unbecoming of an NCO or Staff NCO to allow those under his command to be insubordinate to anyone of higher rank. But first your direct Chaim of Command to see if that resolves the issue. But no one can stop you from writing a subordinate up.
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Cpl Thomas Kifer
Let me just add a note to my previous comment. Regardless of your rank, always try to present yourself as the next rank you hope to achieve. If your a LCpl, discipline yourself as a Cpl. an so on. Its not Eno GH to just achieve the necessary points or completing NCO school. You want to fit the part. And give the respect to your subordinates that you demand for yourself. No one can make a leader out of an individual that doesn't see him/herself as one.
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SFC Christopher Taggart
That's what I would have recommended, but I just wanted to be PC about the whole thing.
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Are you in a position of leadership? If the answer is no, chill out. Junior enlisted rank means practically nothing. For all I know, you came in as a SPC and are new to the unit, while that PFC could have a deployment. If you're a teamleader or you have a tasking and he plays that game then hem him up.
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SGT (Join to see)
Even when I was in a Team Leader position for a brief time, this PFC showed no respect. I couldn't do anything to him as his Squad Leader was fiercely protective over his soldiers and has gone so far as to threaten other soldiers with physical harm if someone tried messing with them.
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SGT Tony Clifford
The answer is your squadleader. If you were my team leader and I had another soldier disrespect you, I would have handled the young private. His squadleader leader and I would have had a conversation. Your squadleader failed this situation.
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Personally you need to set him straight, Break foot off in his ass. His leadership is what's perpetrated this, now that you're no longer in the company talk to your leadership and let them you have a plan I'm not sure if you intend on staying in and becoming an NCO but if you plan on it handing this at your level will help separate you from your peers. Tell the kid to get fucked and pound sand, basically let him make the first move you have an inherent right to defend yourself but if you can handle it without resorting to violence great, if not then oh well stand tall before the man and accept the consequences, you'll also gain more respect afterwards. And if you're an infantryman just tell your leadership you want to take him to the pit with your NCO supervising it you got 30sec to get the issue out and dealt with. Not the most orthodox way of dealing with it by probably the most effective. Over all keep your chin up and make sure you do the right thing for you, understand there is the right thing for the situation and there is the right thing for you that will allow you to walk away with a level head.
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Roger that. I took everyone's advice, including yours into consideration SGT and the issue is being resolved. I do plan on staying in, so I had to handle it in a way where his Squad Leader wouldn't try to get me on paper in retaliation.
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Cpl Kifer hit the nail on the head. Just because the rank of E4 SPC is held does not prevent you from writing up lower enlisteds. But run the chain of command first.
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Back in the day (late 1980s), there was "wall to wall discipline and treeline counseling".
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Hell put it on the table. If it gets that far his leadership will go down with him. U.C.M.J. .
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