Posted on Aug 7, 2017
How should someone handle a disrespectful PFC (as a SPC)?
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When I was in my first company, I had problems with a PFC in a different squad who thought it was perfectly fine to openly disrespect me even though I outranked him. I couldn't correct him, as his squad leader wasn't very fond of me and gladly let it happen. Now I've switched companies, but the same PFC continues to approach me with disrespect and threatens to get his leadership if I defend myself
Posted 8 y ago
Responses: 64
That sounds like to much politics involved. I had an incident with a guy that was disrespectful and he was the same rank as me but had been his rank a tad bit longer by a couple months. He literally tried to hold that over my head to try to justify his level of disrespect. Eventually, I had to confront this mindset with the help of my platoon Sargent.
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The PFC probably has an attitude problem. He or she isn't going to listen to you unless you are a ragbag SPC. I distanced myself with this type of soldiers until I made hard striped E-5. It's a different thing if he assaults you!
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I remember as a Junior NCO (SGT) when I was assigned to a new company and as 1st Squad SLvand Assistant PLT SGT, I had a problem with a soldier in another squad not doing what he was told to do and was very disrespectful. The PLT SGT was on leave, so I took over his responsibilities. As I was assigning daily tasks, this solder blurted out "Ain't no damn E-5 telling me what to do." I stopped, approached th soldier, reached in my left breast pocket, pulled out my card and read th soldier his rights under Article 31 of the UMCJ. I asked him if he understood his rights and what was about to happen. He said "Yes Sergeant." I asked him if we still had a problem, "No Sergeant". Are you going to comply with what is required of you, "Yes Sergeant". After that incident there were no other problems with him. Eventually I pulled him into my squad, took him under my wing, giving him guidance. This showed him that I cared and I wouldn't hesitate to put a boot in his ass when he needed it.
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It all depends on what your position as an E4 is. If you're a team leader you should take actual disciplinary action or corrective training. If you're not in a leadership position you should punch him in the face and keep doing so til he stops. If he's infantry like you are he wont whine about it and everything will be sorted.
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Fuck him,his leadership, and the POV they drove on post with. Take his ass to woodline
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what is he doing that is disrespectful? A little more insight would help. Mocking you because your from say Texas, no big deal. Mocking you do to an accent or ethnicity, culture, now he is crossing lines.
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I was trying to gind mybpost to delete it. I come from the older army days. Things were different back then. So if you see my response, don't pay attention to the advice. You will be in trouble. Pray.
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Tell him to meet you after work, have a drink and kick his ass. That should solve that for a while.
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With rank comes responsibilities. And one of those responsibilities is to teach subordinates respect. I'm sorry, disrespecting someone who outranks you is just asking for trouble. However if his squad leader or team leader won't do anything about it then go to your squad leader or team leader. You shouldn't have to put up with that kind of behavior. If all else fails catch him away from his leadership and smoke the hell out of him.
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Had the same problem, early 80 Germany. we were very SPC4 heavy so we had them as TCs ect. Top would put senior SPC4s in charge of details. anyway PFC 1 giving me grief, PFC 2 telling him to can it.. just then Top came around the corner. problem solved.
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Try your chain of command, you said different company right. Tell your squad leader, or platoon sergeant.
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There is no excuse. I am outranked by kids almost half my age. It's a maturity thing and needs to be corrected.
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Finesse or force, either sit down and have a couple of beers together or meet up and have it out. The bs has to stop.
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I don't care if you don't like the person but rank is rank! That disrespect PFC. can be brought up in charges!! It doesn't matter if his squad leader didn't like you!!! Rank is Rank!!! If he keeps it up, then go up your change of command! Itv
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We would just take him out back and if he slips and falls a few times then oh well. Probably not the right answer but it worked very well
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