Posted on Sep 20, 2017
How should we handle students who are complaining about their PT session ending after the scheduled time?
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Situation: SHOW-ME Gold program (like ROTC but we all been through Basic and AIT as it is required) has PT from 0600-0700 before classes start. Some have an 8am class and they are allowed to leave at 07 if PT runs over. But people who don’t stay and do the cool down. So here’s the problem: soldiers are complaining about being dismissed at passed 07 even if they don’t have a 8am as they feel it’s
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I have to agree with SSG (Join to see), soldiers are going to complain no matter what. As you said yourself SGT (Join to see), they complain about being held over, but if they get released on time they complain about not getting a proper cooldown. Complaining is going to happen. As long as the issues they are complaining about are not interfering with the mission actually being accomplished, let 'em complain.
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We as leaders owe it to the troops to provide fair and realistic timeframes and schedules for PT. to do less, is a failure of leadership.
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I know that your training has serious time constraints as does every training cycle. You should try to find the time to PT them until they puke. The military is not a democracy and everyone does not get a say in what goes on.
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Well first off, I'm going to say if they've got complaints, it sounds like they're entering the wrong profession. Whether it's the PT aspect, the being forced to wait aspect, or even things taking longer than they should... all of those are problems and realities that we face in the military. Deal with it.
But to piggyback on some of the other comments, if you set PT from 0600-0700, then no one should be there after 0700. Conclude the session and carry on with the plan of the day.
That being said though... if we didn't start on time because people were late or something similar, I made sure I got my time back because my time is also precious. If I said we were PTing for a full hour, then I got my full hour. Then my Marines would have to choose how they spent their remaining time, whether it's showering or eating chow. Suffice it to say, my Marines never showed up late more than once.
But to piggyback on some of the other comments, if you set PT from 0600-0700, then no one should be there after 0700. Conclude the session and carry on with the plan of the day.
That being said though... if we didn't start on time because people were late or something similar, I made sure I got my time back because my time is also precious. If I said we were PTing for a full hour, then I got my full hour. Then my Marines would have to choose how they spent their remaining time, whether it's showering or eating chow. Suffice it to say, my Marines never showed up late more than once.
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It looks like your response was cut off. But if they don't like doing PT past 0700 is the question. And so who cares. Soldiers will complain about everything. I don't see the issue.
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SGT (Join to see)
I put the rest in a comment below. But yeah I don’t understand and I don’t think it’s healthy for the organization if people complain and get an attitude
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SSG (Join to see)
Well Soldiers will complain about anything. I have had Soldiers complain about something like that. My response would be suck it up buttercup. No one cares about PT going over. Or you could tell them to work out faster. Either way there is no problem hear keep it up move out and take fire.
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Conduct business to the best of your abilities and remember who complained. When its time to select for positions, remember. That being said, I understand their complaints. They actually are paying for education so, nothing unreasonable should affect it
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did medical spt for a ROTC Co. summer camp early '80's, driving my M715 jeep ambulance behind the PT run, some cadet is puking his guts out, we stop and ask how much beer he drank the nite before, he responded "2 beers", we shouted at him "only 2! get your ass back in the run!"
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Get your ass out early buy the time stretching starts your ready for round two...thats all i got to say about that.
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IMO, finish PT on time or schedule it for 1.5 hours to start at 0530... and then finish PT on time.
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I heard a story about how firefights were only scheduled for 1 hour at a time, and they often went over that limit. It was horrible how those Soldiers were treated by being made to stay and fight for the extra 10-15 minutes.
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