Posted on Sep 20, 2017
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Situation: SHOW-ME Gold program (like ROTC but we all been through Basic and AIT as it is required) has PT from 0600-0700 before classes start. Some have an 8am class and they are allowed to leave at 07 if PT runs over. But people who don’t stay and do the cool down. So here’s the problem: soldiers are complaining about being dismissed at passed 07 even if they don’t have a 8am as they feel it’s
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Cpl Phillip Brame
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Is it me or does the Army have a problem with young soldiers bucking authority? WhAt the hell is next, I’m not going to stand to because it’s to early or I am not going to do this road March because it is to far and I have to carry to much, no guard or fire watch because it cuts down on my sleep time. NCO’ s get in that ass stop trying to be these young soldiers friends and do your jobs. You will be sorry if you do not later on when they have to protect or hold a flank.
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SCPO William Akin
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1a. Having been part of more amphibious operations/exercises then I care to remember, I can safely say, Land the Landing Force, Away All Boats, ALWAYS, Without fail was started/sounded On Schedule.. It Never, EVER ended as scheduled..
1b. "Back in the day" my river patrols always went out on time/schedule, but almost never came back on time...
2. The other half of the Varsity team (Navy Marine) would say, "Improvise, Adapt, Overcome"
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CW4 Craig Urban
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I would not take any crap. However if you are violating policy routinely you could be in a bad situation on the cool down period. At fort ord my soldiers arrived at 6. Did their hour and were at work at 9. I was in the shop at 7. I did my own pt. I was first in and last out.
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SGT Motor Transport Operator
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U whine more than they do now, can we stop with the “back in my day” bullshit”
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SGT Motor Transport Operator
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Just remember that u were that private complaining
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SGT Officer Candidate
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not right for cadre to keep us because PT is scheduled to 0700. It’s usually only 5-10 minutes tops.

Sometimes we don’t have time to do a cool down so we are told to stretch on our own if we would like. People complain about that too saying cadre should have no excuse for making the workout go past 0645 and not have us do a cool down.

Now the reason why it takes so long is because we have to also do the preparation drill plus about 5 minutes to explain the workout.

How I see it is that if you don’t have an 8am class hen what’s the big deal to do a cool down? What’s 10 minutes going to hurt? I’d much rather have a good workout and not do a formal cool down than to have a workout that doesn’t benefit majority of the platoon amd have a cool down. So what’s some advice on how to solve this or go about it?
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MAJ Bryan Zeski
MAJ Bryan Zeski
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If PT is scheduled to end at 0700, it should end at 0700. Cool down should be a part of the 0600-0700. Cool down IS important and the instructor should factor that in. If they don't, that is a failure on their part. Believe me, you can smoke people in 30 minutes without a problem. If you can't get a good smoking plus cool-down in that time, you're doing it wrong.
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