Posted on Jun 21, 2024
How do I transfer out of an RFX unit after having my transfer denied?
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I am waiting to know how to transfer out of an rxf unit, reserves, when they denied my transfer.
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Luckily, RFX is a dead name/system. What it was replaced with I am not certain, but I believe the concept is roughly the same. Now, onto your question:
You can request a transfer at any time, but you have to realize that your Commanders at all levels above you are not required in any way shape or form to approve your transfer.
Some reasons for denial are that your MOS and Slot are critical to the mission end strength, that they are worried that the slot will not be filled again any time soon, or that you were promoted into the slot, and you have to sit there for 1 year. There are countless reasons, honestly.
That being said, if the request was denied for valid reasons, then there is nothing you can do other than to speak with your Commander to fully understand the reasoning(s) behind the denial of the request. Have you asked your Commander why your request was denied?
You can request a transfer at any time, but you have to realize that your Commanders at all levels above you are not required in any way shape or form to approve your transfer.
Some reasons for denial are that your MOS and Slot are critical to the mission end strength, that they are worried that the slot will not be filled again any time soon, or that you were promoted into the slot, and you have to sit there for 1 year. There are countless reasons, honestly.
That being said, if the request was denied for valid reasons, then there is nothing you can do other than to speak with your Commander to fully understand the reasoning(s) behind the denial of the request. Have you asked your Commander why your request was denied?
More details would help. Basically how long have you been in your current slot, are you beholden to an MOS change or any sort of contractual obligation tied to your service at the specific unit?
It's easy to say go to the IG and go Congressional, but the soldier needs to line up their ducks, and make it hard for the COC to articulate the transfer is unreasonable.
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Was the denial as function of process?
I just transferred myself, and it didn't take a week from the time I uploaded the documents in IPPS-A to the time orders hit.
However, IPSS-A is a new system, and I basically have to do all the administrative leg work myself. My point being, this was the first time I had to get a counseling statement signed from a USAR Retention Counselor.
I'm speaking as a 14 year in service CPT, with the understanding, OK I have to check all the boxes before there is going to be any forward movement. So the hardest part was finding a Retention Counselor to sign a counseling statement (I probably could have fudged it with anyone signing the counseling statement, but you never know the blow back).
So before I'm quick to blame the RFX culture it's just as easy to slip up on the slightest of things for a transfer that it gets kicked back administratively for the sake of bureaucracy. Transfers are a BIG DEAL in terms of handling of soldiers affairs. So the system protects itself from making them willy nilly
It's easy to say go to the IG and go Congressional, but the soldier needs to line up their ducks, and make it hard for the COC to articulate the transfer is unreasonable.
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Was the denial as function of process?
I just transferred myself, and it didn't take a week from the time I uploaded the documents in IPPS-A to the time orders hit.
However, IPSS-A is a new system, and I basically have to do all the administrative leg work myself. My point being, this was the first time I had to get a counseling statement signed from a USAR Retention Counselor.
I'm speaking as a 14 year in service CPT, with the understanding, OK I have to check all the boxes before there is going to be any forward movement. So the hardest part was finding a Retention Counselor to sign a counseling statement (I probably could have fudged it with anyone signing the counseling statement, but you never know the blow back).
So before I'm quick to blame the RFX culture it's just as easy to slip up on the slightest of things for a transfer that it gets kicked back administratively for the sake of bureaucracy. Transfers are a BIG DEAL in terms of handling of soldiers affairs. So the system protects itself from making them willy nilly
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*** I thing I was kind of bitter about that never was allowed to happen was simply plan an AT where we as a whole unit would roll out from garrison with my entire MTOE and show up at a port ready to be shipped (not actually ship, and maybe even load up), and then turn around and go home*** That would have been a huge display of mobilization capability (or more realistically a lack thereof).
The point really is RFX could easily result in soldiers being asked to go to 100 days of training, and at the end of it there could actually never be a mobilization. So while there might be some neat raining, it wasn't really optional and the number of days one is taking from work and school becomes unrealistic and then it was year after year after year.
I saw the training plan for my unit just as I was leaving command, and my company I was leaving behind was slated for NCT three years in a row.
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Anyway........ and MSG Livingston points out it is not a thing anymore, and I'm not aware of anything officially replacing it. Right now, there is no money for anything, and we are kicking and screaming to get one extra day for AT simply for travel so we are only getting 15 days at best for AT outside of drill weekends.
Now............. I would like to point out an observation I had while in Command and dealing with RFX.
I looked up all the UIC's and units that were not RFX didn't have an MTOE with equipment and the corresponding personnel, and their METL wasn't any kind of cohesive unit based support METL. None of those were RFX.
Now, if a unit had a support MELT like a field hospital, or a logistical support up, or could basically stand up on it's own, had the allocated positions on the UMR, had the authorized equipment to execute said mission, and the METL stating as such, welp, every single one of those kinds of units were RFX.
Everyone that COULD BE RFX was RFX. One would be hard pressed to find a unit with equipment and a METL that had legit mission support that was not RFX. I would say I did find exceptions, but then if you look at the METL it was tied to things like being available to support FEMA or some other higher command. So to be mission capable and NOT be RFX meant the unit belonged to some special command.