How will the Army transition with transgender in open showers?

Well, Field Showers have limited water. Missions still have to get done. Rotational times with a set time limit could be one solution. But, no matter the solution, there is no fix currently that will satisfy everyone. There's always going to be one person that's unhappy. I'd just be happy to get a shower, especially if I've been without one for 30+ days.

I think all of military installations should do away with communal or open showers. That would solve any issues.

Are the branches of the U.S. military now "accepting" transgendered soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines? What about those who are transitioning? At what point are these transgendered?

This is simple-install a shower curtain.

If we'd just Starship Troopers and do co-ed showers, this would be a non-issue, except troops cannot even behave with separate showers and living quarters.

Huh. If people are driven to the military for this surgery - perhaps the military (which, after all, supposedly protects and serves all Americans) would become involved in making sure any American who needs this surgery doesn't face prejudice or financial burden. While we're at it, assist health care, housing, and education for all Americans. So only those who truly want to join, do. And then if ALL Americans have this, so will veterans. And thumbs up to those saying "Suck it up soldier." Well, not that way. At least not in an occupied shower.

Now you are bringing social test tube issues into the military. There are a couple of ways this can be treated. Basically a man or woman is exactly that. They can identify however they like. If they joined the military as a man or woman then they are treated as such until they have completed the transition to become what they identify as. If they don't like it, that is just this side of tough.

The second way is simple as well. You go into a shower etc to shower.. why are you bothering to look at what another person has or doesn't have under their clothing? Focus on the task which is you taking care of YOUR hygiene. Until such time as an issue ie harassment in the shower etc... it's not an issue.

The third is to treat it much like co-ed showering and either assign times or other such measures to segregate the "sexes" and again this will depend on if there is an actual problem.

Personally and professionally my job, my duty does not involve what a person has or doesn't have when they are showering. Why are you eyeballing someone else when you should be in there getting clean and getting out. I'll adapt what a Senior Drill told us a few hundred times. "If you can taste it you are taking too long." -> "If you have time to look around, you are taking too long." Get in, shower, rinse off, get out, Simple and as complex as that. If its anything more... the problem is you and not the person you are looking at.

I am about to reenlist for the first time, and I frequently have conversations with civilians and family members who are curious how the military handles this issue. I always respond: a democratic nation’s military must be a representation of the nation’s society. No class or demographic should be excluded, and by allowing all to serve it helps military members better understand the citizens they protect. Even if they don’t make the cut for combat arms or deployment, their presence in the ranks and service in whatever capacity they are able adds value to the force by representing citizens like them.

I wrestle with the question. I believe every American should have the opportunity to serve, if qualified.

Let me first say This is a opinionated question remember that before you start down voting and calling names. They will make it work always have always will. How they do it? I or no one else know that answer. However if it was up to me the answer would be you use the bathroom/ shower the identifies
with your Birth Certificate unless you have a Full Transition completed. I DO NOT care what you identify as but only what your body parts say you are. 2nd your not in there for a sight seeing tour you are there for personal Hygiene get it done and move on. If that doesn't work for you get to buckets and find some bushes.

Someone has to go through the minefield first

It's a mental issue that needs to be addressed outside the military.

The military is not a sounding board for this mental disease and ought not be forced to adjust policy due to political issues.

There is no similarities to this and racial integration. Period.

I imagine they'll transition the same way they did with racially integrated units, opening combat arms to women, opening Ranger School tp women, accepting openly gay soldiers serving. Pretty much a "There it is, that's how it is, now deal with it or hit the bricks". We should always return to the dictum that a soldier is a soldier is a soldier. Race don't matter, color don't matter, gender don't matter. You wear the uniform, you meet the standards, you're good to go. Don't meet the standards, or expect some kind of special treatment, then you're in the wrong line of work.

Showering is a relatively minor issue. The really big issue is the non-deployability of transitioning service members. Not everyone HAS to deploy, but every service member must BE ABLE to deploy. If you cannot maintain deployability, for whatever reason, you are a liability to the service and someone else has to fill that gap.

They don't belong in the military. I'm not talking about anything other than the fact that gender dysphoria is a mental illness. A mental illness I might add that leads many of them to suicidal ends and no, it isn't because they simply aren't accepted by others. Soldiers have enough to worry about without adding in forcing them to feed someone else's pipe-dream fantasy that they can become another gender by smearing on some make up, wearing a dress and changing their name from Bob to Roberta.

Almost half (48.3%) reported suicidal ideation, 23.8% had attempted suicide. This is not a statistic that should be being introduced into our fighting force simply because it would be a nice thing to do to meet woke, DEI requirements in a place that it shouldn't be a concern. War fighting is something that brings on its own set of psychological issues without already getting a head start on it before even getting to the starting line. I know many young men and women for that matter that would have loved to join the military but this sort of thing makes them rethink it and take other avenues instead of serving. Who in their right mind would want to go to war with someone from a demographic that lives their life in an ongoing fantasy that they demand others validate along with their potential suicidal or perhaps even homicidal tendencies? So the military will now make it mandatory for fellow service members to validate their fantasy and feed their mental illness? You will continue to miss recruitment quotas as well you should.

I've seen some advocates for this use the introduction of Black service members many decades ago as an example...False equivalency all together. The color of your skin is not a mental illness or a departure from reality in substitution of fantasy. Even homosexuals serving at least have a solid grasp of reality typically. It doesn't get more real than combat and the last thing you want is someone with a very tangible lack in their grasp of reality involved.

Just out of curiosity, can I come back in and identify as a commanding general and have the military bending over backwards to feed my fantasy? It has as much basis in reality as this load of bull. What's next? Are we going to allow someone who identifies as a horse to serve as a mount in the Old Guard perhaps? Maybe some soldiers on all fours and barking in the K-9 Corps? At what point does the line of ludicrous get drawn?

At some point, reality and pragmatism has to prevail or our military is doomed in infrastructure, recruiting and especially on the battlefield. God help this country because it has lost its way. We are the laughing stock of the world thanks to this insanity.

You want to make it equal... make the barracks co-ed. That way they could ID as a lampshade and then it wouldn't make any difference.

I was in iraq when they started letting gays in
we had a LT waiting to push the button to send a message on FB that she was a lesbian

I didnt like it then and couldnt wait to retire...all of this makes combat readiness , not ready...too many problems associated with this to make this ok

women in combat roles already make this a bad thing as I saw the first time I was in iraq...a guy flipped a humvee and killed the gunner ...a female ...while out on the road.....I can only guess the driver was at fault because he was messing with her while she was in the gunner seat which probably she kicked him in the head

women also have the monthly problem, if they are in a place where they cant clean while on their monthly , it could be a health issue later

I dont believe women or gays should be let in, same goes for transgenders....too many problems that could happen that dont need to happen if they arent let in...so glad I'm retired, cant stand what has happened to the military

Will a serviceperson choose to go trans to keep from being other than Honorable/ Dishonorable discharged?? They could say the attempt at discharge is because they came out as being trans.

Just to throw has on the fire. Trans soldiers have been in the army for a while. They fought in Afghanistan and Iraq. You couldn't tell if one was transgender or not. Right wing boogeyman at work again.

Get Trump back in office and end this crap. I retired before all this crap came into play. I think it will bring down morale, unit cohesion within the ranks. Were changing too much from base names because some asshats thought they were too offensive. Glad i am retired, i would not adapt to today's military