Posted on Oct 17, 2015
SPC Andrew Griffin
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Where there ever be a time that our Men and Women in Uniform will SERVE strictly in Garrison?
Posted in these groups: Increasingmoraleretention MoraleAfghanistan AfghanistanIraq war Warfare
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SGM Steve Wettstein
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SPC Andrew Griffin here is my answer to your question about a garrison Army. My son has been for about 2 years. IMO if he would would retire at 20 years, he might have five years of a peace time Army.
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SPC Andrew Griffin
SPC Andrew Griffin
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Great Perspective!
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Capt Seid Waddell
Capt Seid Waddell
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SGM Steve Wettstein, SPC Andrew Griffin, I served during Viet Nam, and so I have no first-hand experience with a peace time military, but I have heard lots of stories from those that did. Painting rocks, knee deep in chicken s**t, getting smoked for petty stuff.

The best officers I served under were WWII vintage, where the mission was the only thing that counted - everything else was trivial BS. Those that came up the ranks during peace time after Korea and before Viet Nam were a real mixed bag.

I was glad to have served during war time and would have loved to have made it a career, but they called the war off and we faced a steep RIF.
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SPC Andrew Griffin
SPC Andrew Griffin
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Capt Seid Waddell - Thank you very much for sharing this with me brother!
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Col Kyle Taylor
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I think what really needs to be looked at it how we approach conflict in the first place. If our objective is clear, executing the mission and leaving is fine but when ambiguous then it will take longer. We never left Germany or Japan after WWII but our intent was to defeat them and ensure that it didn't happen again. If our sole purpose is a punishment strategy, them we punish and depart. Morale? If the fight is just and understood, then morale probably isn't and won't be an issue.
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1SG Charles Hunter
1SG Charles Hunter
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Agreed. Make the mission clear and unambiguous and provide the resources needed to accomplish said mission. And don't change it halfway through. As to "nation building," that's what comes AFTER the military mission is complete.
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MSgt Dave Burke
MSgt Dave Burke
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We, as a nation, must return to the attitude not seen since WWII. Fight to WIN as quickly as possible. Bring back the draft, get up a force of about 2,000,000 ground troops and an adequate naval and air forces and attack to kill! Sen the enemy back to the stone age and then we would not have to fight them again for a generation or two. Ever since WWII the thinking has been not to win but to cool off tensions. Want peace in the middle east? A million man force could start in Israel and kill everything they meet as they spread east, north, and south from there. Bring on another Patton and McArthur to lead the charge!
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SPC Andrew Griffin
SPC Andrew Griffin
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Thank you! You have made some STRONG Points!
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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It's a good thing. Without war, the drawdowns will get worse...
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SPC Andrew Griffin
SPC Andrew Griffin
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In what way will it get worse?
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SFC Michael Hasbun
SFC Michael Hasbun
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War is how we justify our existence. No war= No war budget. If the generals have to choose between Soldiers pay and flat screen TV's for all the offices, well, it's a good time to be a TV manufacturer..
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