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I just had come off mission and was going back out in three hours he wanted me to shower up before I could eat I found out later he was a 1st LT but did not identify himself at the time was I right or wrong for forceably Removing his hand from my chest what say you RP freinds
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Well you are pretty sparse with the details. It was wrong for him to put his hands on you to begin with, but then you say you forcibly removed his hand from your chest. Did you just swat it away or did you put him in an arm hold and break his hand. Lots of details missing.
Now I don't know what rank you were when this occurred, but if someone is trying to correct me, I tend to automatically assume they are of a higher rank. That doesn't excuse him putting his hand on you to correct you, but it also doesn't excuse your response.
In my opinion, I think both parties were wrong. He was wrong for the way he initiated the encounter and you were wrong for the response. This is just going off the sparse details that were presented.
Now I don't know what rank you were when this occurred, but if someone is trying to correct me, I tend to automatically assume they are of a higher rank. That doesn't excuse him putting his hand on you to correct you, but it also doesn't excuse your response.
In my opinion, I think both parties were wrong. He was wrong for the way he initiated the encounter and you were wrong for the response. This is just going off the sparse details that were presented.
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MSG Louis Alexander
If something like that happens, refer back to your training...automatic response in self-defense. Explain it was reaction without thought! As a trained warrior you are expected to defend yourself - lol
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Just from what I read, I'd say you were both on the wrong side of right.....and please hear me out:
1) You just got done with mission and headed to the DFAC, I gather, to get chow. As a Preventive Medicine NCO, this is a serious sanitation hazard that most (if not all) DFACs will not allow as it is possible to contaminate other peoples food and the food on the line with whatever dirt and sweat that is on your body.
2) The 1LT should have identified himself and also should not have laid a hand on you.
3) You lost your cool by getting physical as well.
Both parties were a little on the unprofessional side. But again, that's simply my opinion.
1) You just got done with mission and headed to the DFAC, I gather, to get chow. As a Preventive Medicine NCO, this is a serious sanitation hazard that most (if not all) DFACs will not allow as it is possible to contaminate other peoples food and the food on the line with whatever dirt and sweat that is on your body.
2) The 1LT should have identified himself and also should not have laid a hand on you.
3) You lost your cool by getting physical as well.
Both parties were a little on the unprofessional side. But again, that's simply my opinion.
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SFC Jeff Couch
I respect that liked most of your thoughts thank you what I didn't add was I had washed my face and hands trying to be as sanitized as possible and removing his hand as I did I don't think it was in a unprofessional manner I was showing my rank he would not give his we were taught not to lay hands on unless you were touched first I was tired probably could have handled it better but thank you for your thought SSG this has one of the things that has crossed my mind quite a bit since then much luck brother
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SPC Erich Guenther
Agree he should not have touched you, that is a little disrespectful and irritating. But be honest here that part of the anger on your part was the thinking in the back of your mind he was another POG obstructing you. You have to consider he had no clue you were going out on another mission in three hours and he was polite enough to not say "you stink" and inflame the situation more. Probably had no clue you were just comming off a mission either but that is just me guessing. I am not a combat veteran, this happens in peacetime as well (yeah I know it is not the same stress level). Boarding a USAF C-130 after two weeks of constant rain and mud in the field and right at the MF-ing door is the crew chief.......wipe your feet everyone, don't track mud into my clean airplane. The Platoon sergeant pulled him aside and had words with him before someone decked him.
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No one is allowed to put their hands on you Upper or lower rank I had a WO try that shit on me poking his grubby finger in my chest My words exactly "I'm not going to be responsible for what happens when that finger touches me again." He beat feet
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SFC Jeff Couch
That was my way of thinking as well we were taught when I went to basic you don't put hands on no one and they show you the same respect
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