Posted on Oct 16, 2016
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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SFC Anthony Montoya
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Tell him to shut his fucking pie hole and stand fast after formation so you can rip his heart out thru his asshole and make him eat it little fucktard
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COL John Hudson
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Gosh Chief - tell us how you REALLY feel !!!! (LOL) Wink.
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Sgt Donald Riggs
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putting him in compliance would have been swift and no one would have questioned it. When did we become a "words can hurt" military?
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SSG William Jackson
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Paper work would be started to release him with a dishonorable. if he does not understand the change of command and respect he would be a high risk in combat.
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SGT Lee Thomsen
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Platoon! Half Right Face! Front leaning rest position, MOVE! 1,2,3...1
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MSG Darren Gaddy
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I agree with many of the comments below. First thing is maintain your bearing in front of your other Soldiers. Second, give the Soldier the proper command to shut his mouth. Allow him to disobey a lawful order and continue his insubordinate conduct. Instruct him and his team leader to stand-fast, and allow the other Soldiers to depart for work-call. Explain to him the expectations of a service member, no matter the service. Maybe he didn't understand before, but ensure this time he does. Maybe you need to help him with some energy dispersal at this point. Question him upon completion to ensure he understands the expectations and his position in the unit and when he is allowed to or expected to speak. Document, document, document..... He just made and example of himself! Ensure your leadership style is not contributing to behavior of this sort or allowing room for it. Re-examine, ensure your Boss is aware and knows you've handled it correctly. Mentorship is important at all levels.
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TSgt Security Forces
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I am a TSgt with nearly 20 years service. I would like to say my military bearing would prevail and I would pull the individual aside. If, on a bad day, my "other" military perspective may take hold and an ass chewing of monumental proportions would occur. It also depends a lot on what kind of troop the individual has been and if there may be hidden reasons for his insubordination; maybe family issues at home?
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SFC Bill Snyder
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Back in the "old" days, he would find out what the Mess Hall grease trap look like on weekends and learn that Passes are a previlidge, not a right. Nowadays, I would guess that you keep a book on this Guy and when the time is ripe, a visit to the CO to process elimination paperwork would take care of things.
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SGT Aaron Atwood
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You still assign him that task, and have a talk behind the treeline with him and his fireteam leader/squad leader. Remind him that he is not hot s**t just because he has a pizza stain by his GWOT. Remind him that as far as you are concerned he knows nothing even if he has a Master's and you have zero college. You're still the senior Sergeant. He ain't. From there, send him away to do the assigned task with extra janitorial duties. Once he's gone talk with his immediate leadership and find out if this is common behavior for him or if something happened that is causing him to act the way he is. We all have our moments where bearing goes out the window. The important thing to address is why and how to prevent that from happening again without kissing his @$$.
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CSM Arthur La Rue
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Well, the fact that you referred to yourself as a "senior E-5" is telling in itself. "Senior E-5 is not a rank. And, without any more details (stories always improve later on) insubordination does not go down the Chain, only up. We call the other direction poor leadership, so this needs counseling and referral to the chain of command. Regardless of what or how the orders were given, the private (?) should have followed orders and complained afterwards. The (SGT) hopefully would have insisted but assisted that young (soldier?) in completing the mission. Often, young NCOs aren't always the best at either leadership or tact, so I'm guessing that young (E-2) may have had enough. Still, orders are orders. This is a teachable moment for all involved.
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SFC David Pope, MBA
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I had the same thing happen to me when I was an E-4 team chief. The only problem was my female private was sleeping with my squad leader. I reported the insubordination to my squad leader, and he ripped me a knew one. Then my platoon SGT asks me why the private was not doing her assignment, and I explained what happened. Again I get ripped a new one. Finally another higher ranking squad leader stepped in after witnessing my posterior get removed one chunk at a time. He ripped my squad leader a new one and made him get his girlfriend back in line. It was weeks later that I found out about the knocking boots, and 20 years later that I found out why I got ripped twice for doing my job. I was being racially blocked from promotion and retention by my squad leader and platoon SGT. The other squad leader knew this and stepped in on my behalf. I wish he had been my squad leader. He was part of the same Mason Lodge and that gave him leverage. Needless to say that private was transferred a week later to another company, and my life got a lot better.
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