Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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The fresh E2 is in violation of insubordination and his reactive and inappropriate response must be dealt with immediately. Not only will he openly receive "re-direction" from the E-5, our bigmouth E2 will be assigned extra duty to "reflect" on his language and behavior; and how he is a distraction to the mission and his team.
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You would need to show the others you mean business and tell him with more authority and get in his face more. Nip it in the butt before the rest his peers think they can get away with that kind of disrespect also
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Wow...
I believe I would carry on giving details, have the SL/LS whatever applies and the E2 standby. Explain my intentions to the SL and from there demand an explanation to the E2 failure to follow a lawful order and the disrespect to an NCO.
Maybe the E2 has something going on that needs addressed, don't misunderstand the disrespect still needs to be addressed but an NCO looks out for theirs and needs all the details. After that their life is going to be noticeably harder until the attitude improves or they're separated.
I believe I would carry on giving details, have the SL/LS whatever applies and the E2 standby. Explain my intentions to the SL and from there demand an explanation to the E2 failure to follow a lawful order and the disrespect to an NCO.
Maybe the E2 has something going on that needs addressed, don't misunderstand the disrespect still needs to be addressed but an NCO looks out for theirs and needs all the details. After that their life is going to be noticeably harder until the attitude improves or they're separated.
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Have pfc report to CO's office...recommend him for court martial for disobeying a order...have CO put the fear of god into him
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As an NCO you can't punish but you can counsel and find out the cause. Sure I could work his ass off but most times it will just give them a worse attitude. I would get my Divisions officers permission to stop his liberty for a couple of days and if that doesn't work then It is time for the CO to step in and dole out the appropriate punishment for the offense. First off as a work center supervisor aboard ship I am not their friend but their supervisor period. If they are a problem and I can't depend on them then I don't need there bullshit. An order is an order period.If they don't like it well they never should have raised there hand and took the oath to obey all orders given. I served 1975-1995 first in the Army then Navy. When I went in if you mouthed off you would get your ass beaten and it is how it should be now instead of a bunch of cry babies we have now because their parents were shitty raising them and let them get away with everything because they were more concerned about being there friend instead of their parent.
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I would explain how the COC works and make this individual understand that he is looking at disciplinary measures from that point on. It could result in his/hers getting put out of the military.
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