Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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I wish my answer was different, but in this Touchy Feely Damn World were everybody get's butt hurt
over everything, the Rules have unfortunately changed for the worst in my opinion, my first choice would have been to put a boot in there ass and make them pull twice the duty they were given!
over everything, the Rules have unfortunately changed for the worst in my opinion, my first choice would have been to put a boot in there ass and make them pull twice the duty they were given!
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Back in my day this would have gotten the E2 a whole world of hurt from the rest of the squad after they all pulled some really nasty duties.
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Simple enough, I will see him, his fireteam leader, and squad leader after formation. There will be a new asshole handed out to this new bag of ass, in which he will hold onto until I am finished PTing the old dumbass off of him. Which I'm sure would result in the casualties in this situation will be more than willing to take their turn teaching this young E-2 just how bad life can truly be if that is his wish.
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BTW, since this person is just E-2, clean Barracks, forgot Basics Training & AIT, ethics, needs a re-fresher course; nothing he or she hasn't had before.
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Calmly, have your write up; and information enfront of your platoon SGT E-6; if available, or the next NCOIC.
Available; next jobs; Battalion - Lawn, KP, once you speak to your Chain of Command; to see if this available.
Available; next jobs; Battalion - Lawn, KP, once you speak to your Chain of Command; to see if this available.
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at that point he is directly refusing an order from an NCO and I would in your position, (which i'm not i'm just a dumb E2 with less than a year in) either smoke the dog pi** out of him or hit him with a negative counseling depending on how many times he has done this. At least that is what it would be like here.
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when I was in he would do it or get his butt kicked.I was in in 1965 usmc for 4 years 2 years in nam .where doing what you are told counts.you give an order it is to carried out no question.but now days it is differant I think .they get the chance to mouth of to you and you are not suppose to touch them.I do not think I could take the new way
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It happened a few times. My main response was to ask what was the main problem, did you misunderstand or do you just not want to? A few times I actually got an honest answer of "I don't want to and you can't make me".... I smiled a little smile and very softly answered....."You're right smooth....I can't MAKE you do anything. But......(face closer)....I can damn sure make you wish you HAD! Five seconds, your choice.....NOW!
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First, pvt Shitbird would be pushing until he reached China, after his Article 15 he'd be on every shit detail I could find, I'd be his nemesis for as long as he was assigned to be.
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