Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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Good God, what kind of pansie ass NCOs are they raising now days? Calmly explain what is expected of him in private? I wouldn't use that in a kindergarten class and sure the hell wouldn't react that way in the military.
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USMC Gunny -- Take him to a quiet private corner and "adjust" his attitude.
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the same way it was done in my unit the dumb ass and his two leaders: (fire team and squad leaders) would all stay then the fuck up would watch as his direct leaders did the job then by next formation the problem would be fixed no questions asked and the higher ups didn't get involved the way it should be.
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It would need to be nipped really quick there would be alot of pt going on and also looking up disrespecting a NCO and also in form him that if it continues that he will be given a article 15 cause of the way the militery has went to more paper than anything.
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It is blatant disrespect and disobedience of a lawful order. In instances like this, "Praise in public, punish in private," doesn't apply. It should be an "On the spot," correction. No need to raise your voice. Look the person in the eyes. Firmly, "You were given a task, an implied direct order. You will carry that task out. Do I make myself clear? You have already crossed a line. One more word of defiance or disrespect will result in you being formally charged." When the formation is dismissed. I would pull that person to the side with your superior in attendance. Some form of non-judicial punishment administered. Documentation any further occurrence will result in formal charges. What this does is gives that one shot in case the Sailor was off keel this day. Maybe something going on his life. Yet he needs to know in no uncertain terms this will not be tolerated and can result in dire consequences. By on the spot correction. You've just let everyone in that formation know this will not be tolerated. By not screaming, cussing, but with firmness you've demonstrated sound leadership which is not tainted by uncontrollable rage.
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Bettter question is, why were trained thinking that was an acceptable response?
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Why do you call one person They and Them? I never had an E2 run his mouth at me but if I did, I would turn it over to the NCO chain of command. If they needed me to get involved, they would let me know.
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MAJ John Douglas
A good commander, in my mind will always give the NCOs a chance to handle problems in the ranks before he or she gets involved. If its really serious, that's another matter but normal day to day operations need to have as much NCO input as possible.
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in private find out what's really going on. could be a number of things going on, personal or private. but the bottom line is that Warrior must obey all lawful orders. but you must document, document that stuff.
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smoke his ass ..give him the crappiest work details..after duty work details
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