Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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I was in that position as an E-3 over an E-1. As an MP we are to make sure all facilities are locked and secured. I noticed on patrol a national guard armory door was opened. I called for back up and told the e-1 to take up a position to watch for anyone who may come out while I took up a position to the other side. The E-1 instead rushed the door before back up arrived. Of course I had to have his back and come to find out the armory was empty. We arrived at the PMO and I dropped the e-1 off , told the desk Sgt what happened and told him I didn't want him riding with me and that I prefer to ride alone. Desk Sgt told me okay for this shift. The next day the company commander called me into the office and told me that the e-1 said that I was the one reckless and that he was afraid to ride with me. I think I squared it away but I left any actions in the hands of the NCO's and Officers.
I also have been on the receiving end but I was accused of being disrespectful. It was a weekend and we were off duty, a specialist who had been partying in the barracks on the 3rd floor ordered me to pick up his mess in his common area. I respectively reminded him we were off duty and that I didn't cause his mess and I being on the 1st floor had my own mess. To be honest I thought he was drunk still. I turned around and went back downstairs. Later that day he at the urging of a squad leader gave me a counseling notice which I refused to sign. It said that I had disrespected a "higher ranking person" and that I mouthed off and said I didn't want to be in the Army. I was furious and this specialist from that point on was considered a jack-ass by most of the company.
I also have been on the receiving end but I was accused of being disrespectful. It was a weekend and we were off duty, a specialist who had been partying in the barracks on the 3rd floor ordered me to pick up his mess in his common area. I respectively reminded him we were off duty and that I didn't cause his mess and I being on the 1st floor had my own mess. To be honest I thought he was drunk still. I turned around and went back downstairs. Later that day he at the urging of a squad leader gave me a counseling notice which I refused to sign. It said that I had disrespected a "higher ranking person" and that I mouthed off and said I didn't want to be in the Army. I was furious and this specialist from that point on was considered a jack-ass by most of the company.
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Ahh hell no f*king problem. Front leaning rest position move. Wall to wall counciling and smoke that *ss
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He would be cleaning the can with his tongue if I didn't smack his teeth out
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Go to my to my LPO assuming I am the Work Center Supervisor. Any take it from there. Also Counceling Chit.
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I would take him aside and explain that i gave him a order and if he valued his welfare of keeping his teeth to do as i ordered
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MSG James Hughs
Never threaten unless you are fully ready to carry out that threat......and face the consequence of that action....such as what if he whips your ass.....you accidentally kill him ....or he brings charges on you .... not a smart solution
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