Posted on Jul 20, 2023
How would you solve the military recruiting challenges currently facing DOD?
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The recruiting struggles continue across all branches. What is causing it and how should it be addressed?
https://www.wsj.com/story/the-us-army-expects-to-end-up-15000-recruits-short-this-year-b5e9de86
https://www.wsj.com/story/the-us-army-expects-to-end-up-15000-recruits-short-this-year-b5e9de86
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The WOKE MILITARY is ruining all of the ARMED SERVICES. Until it changes recruiting will be difficult.
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I t may be time to reconsider universal service with options to serve in the military or in public service for 2 years. A delay can be authorized for people in essential training. BCT should be extended a little to improve physical conditioning. People who have a hard time adjusting be sent to special training platoons, we had those and some good soldiers came out of them. Don’t let folks out just because they feel they don’t want to do that. Toughen up. Then make sure the benefits of serving honorably in the military are something to be desired in general such as subsidizing education of veterans to the extent we used to. Don’t exempt folks with ADHD and ASD as they can funnction well in structured consistent environments.
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First of all, what kind of person would want to serve? Someone who was RAISED to see the United States as WORTHY of service. Me, I was in a family that had served for generations, and my dad's great uncle was one of only three Generals of the Armies of The United States. It was in my blood, quite literally. But today? The United States is wasting it's money dissolving college debts, and spending money on illegal aliens. WHAT has it done for VETERANS? Look how veterans are treated! We have trouble getting jobs, when corporations would rather import cheap foreign workers under programs such as H1B. FIRST, cut off the flow of imported cheap labor. Hell, remove the authorization of those already here. MAKE the corporations hire Americans! Corporations are not people with rights! Thomas Jefferson hated them, calling them "Aristocratic, defying the rule of law." THEN, give them incentive to hire veterans, let's say by giving them tax incentives. When your employer deducts income taxes, don't they also have to chip in? MAKE VETERANS TAX FREE. This would benefit the employer... AND it gets to the point of making veterans visibly valuable, THEN people would want to serve! We are not civilians, DAMMIT, and if the civilians don't like it, too freaking bad!
That still doesn't address the fact I wouldn't want to serve under the current administration even with my family history, but giving corporations a viable reason to hire American veterans would be a very good start. Hell, just make veterans tax free for all taxes! Use something like id dot me for validation. If those who seerve the country represent just a small portion of the population at large, then it would not be a great hit in so far as deriving operating revenue from the population, but it WOULD be a damn good incentive for service, wouldn't it?
There's my input, submitted for your approval. Semper fi.
That still doesn't address the fact I wouldn't want to serve under the current administration even with my family history, but giving corporations a viable reason to hire American veterans would be a very good start. Hell, just make veterans tax free for all taxes! Use something like id dot me for validation. If those who seerve the country represent just a small portion of the population at large, then it would not be a great hit in so far as deriving operating revenue from the population, but it WOULD be a damn good incentive for service, wouldn't it?
There's my input, submitted for your approval. Semper fi.
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CPO Melvin Miller
Did you everwatch thr movie: A day without a Mexican. I was about the labor force in California that most Caucasions would or could not do. Every state pretty much has migrant workers that either stay in the state or ravel from one stated to aother to plant and spick crops and thenn process them. Meat packing plants etc hire immigrants because they would do the nastiest jobs that others will not. If you got rid of all tehm and started paying higher wages and benefits the economy would be ten times worse than it has been since Covid.
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Sgt Arthur Grant
OK, please consider that I have had business accounting courses. What does a business want? They want a "personnel resource" to "deliver" a specific labor product at the CHEAPEST rate possible so that the company can make the most money possible from the delivery of said product in some form. Now, in a free market economy, those with skills have to compete for jobs, and some deprecation in compensation occurs as a result of this. However, liberal Hollywood products would like to tell us that corporations cannot exist without cheap foreign workers. That's utter nonsense! As proof, I ask the simple question: "How did corporations exist before the availability of cheap foreign labor" They existed by not paying executives unreasonable salaries! Executives do not DESERVE huge salaries, they are not the ones doing the work. Those with the skills to perform skilled labor are the most important.
Now, menial labor jobs are not skilled, they are just labor units that provide basic functionality at the lowest rate possible. I'm not talking about so-called "minimum wage." I'm talking about a wage necessary for subsistence existence in the vicinity of the work environment. Can a lower worker afford to live in the vicinity of the job? If not, that is a failure of the company choosing an inappropriate site for operations. If you want good American workers, they have to afford the rents charged them by the apartments available in the area of the job site. Now the apartments are run by what? Other corporations, right? Corporations that want the most PROFIT, so they want to charge the highest POSSIBLE rates tolerated by the rental customers in the area. Tolerable rents are directly connected to the available salaries in said area for workers of the appropriate skills level.
It's not that US citizens will not do the work, they cannot AFFORD to live in the vicinity of the job.
Foreign labor is not the answer. We lived just fine without foreign labor for a long time. The problem with both rental rates and available salaries is connected to the very same problem: unreasonable corporate executive compensation. That's the way my basic accounting education allows me to view the situation.
Now, menial labor jobs are not skilled, they are just labor units that provide basic functionality at the lowest rate possible. I'm not talking about so-called "minimum wage." I'm talking about a wage necessary for subsistence existence in the vicinity of the work environment. Can a lower worker afford to live in the vicinity of the job? If not, that is a failure of the company choosing an inappropriate site for operations. If you want good American workers, they have to afford the rents charged them by the apartments available in the area of the job site. Now the apartments are run by what? Other corporations, right? Corporations that want the most PROFIT, so they want to charge the highest POSSIBLE rates tolerated by the rental customers in the area. Tolerable rents are directly connected to the available salaries in said area for workers of the appropriate skills level.
It's not that US citizens will not do the work, they cannot AFFORD to live in the vicinity of the job.
Foreign labor is not the answer. We lived just fine without foreign labor for a long time. The problem with both rental rates and available salaries is connected to the very same problem: unreasonable corporate executive compensation. That's the way my basic accounting education allows me to view the situation.
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Hit them in the face with Patriotism because we know the money is not going to cut it.
Also let's please blaming: woke" and DEI as the reasons why the young adults of today are not enlisting!
Also let's please blaming: woke" and DEI as the reasons why the young adults of today are not enlisting!
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Up the enlistment bonus and better commercials. Show how military experience will get you a better job in the civilian sector.
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It's a simple matter of economics and quality of life.
Is the life of a recruit greater than or equal to the life of of an equivalent position outside the service. The answer is almost overwhelmingly no. In the Roman military pay, food, and care were superior than the average person. If you made it to retirement you also were guaranteed a relatively huge stipend and retirement.
In the modern military, pay, food, and quality of life are on average significantly worse. Most members don't make it to retirement incentives that cannot be gotten until after a term is hardly motivation to join, when we have horror story after horror story on blast because of social media.
So how do we increase retention and enlistment
1) NCOs and officers all need course in organizational psychology
2) bad leadership needs to be identified and purged from service, publicly so people see changes are being made
3) quality of life, pay, and food need to be equal to or supercede the civilian equivalent.
4) implement tiered incentives based on time in service so that people don't have to wait until the end of service to get benefits
Is the life of a recruit greater than or equal to the life of of an equivalent position outside the service. The answer is almost overwhelmingly no. In the Roman military pay, food, and care were superior than the average person. If you made it to retirement you also were guaranteed a relatively huge stipend and retirement.
In the modern military, pay, food, and quality of life are on average significantly worse. Most members don't make it to retirement incentives that cannot be gotten until after a term is hardly motivation to join, when we have horror story after horror story on blast because of social media.
So how do we increase retention and enlistment
1) NCOs and officers all need course in organizational psychology
2) bad leadership needs to be identified and purged from service, publicly so people see changes are being made
3) quality of life, pay, and food need to be equal to or supercede the civilian equivalent.
4) implement tiered incentives based on time in service so that people don't have to wait until the end of service to get benefits
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Conscripted service. Every 18 yo should be required to provide a service to their country. Nearly every public service institution in America is understaffed. 18 months minimum service for which a one for one month of college tuition is provided upon successful completion. These are all paid as internships or apprenticeships.
It would of course be objected too at first as every change is. However overtime, this would be acceptable as the norm.
Also, as a path to citizenship for Dreamers and legal immigrants. Has been a very successful program in the past. 100's of thousands of Philippino's now US citizens due to this program.
It would of course be objected too at first as every change is. However overtime, this would be acceptable as the norm.
Also, as a path to citizenship for Dreamers and legal immigrants. Has been a very successful program in the past. 100's of thousands of Philippino's now US citizens due to this program.
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Get rid of the Anti Military Traitor joe Administration and his Pentagon lackeys! Go back to recruiting able bodied recruits and dump the woke wannabe but do not want to live the military life! Elect a president who is pro military, not some run and hide in Canada pot smoking druggie! The young people today do not understand havinto work 8 hours much less 24 hours in a war zone! Just my opinion!
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