Posted on Jul 20, 2023
How would you solve the military recruiting challenges currently facing DOD?
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The recruiting struggles continue across all branches. What is causing it and how should it be addressed?
https://www.wsj.com/story/the-us-army-expects-to-end-up-15000-recruits-short-this-year-b5e9de86
https://www.wsj.com/story/the-us-army-expects-to-end-up-15000-recruits-short-this-year-b5e9de86
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The military recruiting issues will be resolved when we elect a strong military supporter as President of the United States. Re-elect President Trump ! As it stands right now, we have no Commander in Chief. President Trump , after surviving an assassination attempt, is more determined than ever to lead all branches of our military back to being the finest in the world.
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Turn it back into whatvis supposed to be; an effective fighting force instead of an social experement in changing societal norms and indoctrinating young people into lifestyles that they do not initially feel. Stop the persecution of traditional "anything" and forcing any new fad or perversion that some libtard think tank feel is worth exploration!
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The Truth Hurts: It has to start from the top ie Congress and the Generals/Admirals, Liberalism is a mental disorder with that being said the military is not a social play ground and or experiment we are or should be a lean mean fighting machine that kills and destroys things, this “ wokeism” has no room in the branches. I see too many service personnel on Tik Tok, Face Book, and other social media sites looking too cute, too pretty how do you have time for this crap posting during working hours? Get back to basics get back to the standards and enforce them NCO’s need to do their jobs, Officers need to do theirs, it’s a new numbers game that’s all it’s ever been the numbers look good but moral sucks cause the standards have been lowered.
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Close combat arms to females, get rid of ALL the DEI type briefings as well as SHARP and all the other nonsense. Focus on training to put steel on target, the actual purpose of the armed forces. That alone will increase recruitment significantly.
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Take in almost anyone like the French foreign yet better build and 90 day program. Teach them the basic. Reading writing math history the constitution geography and NO politics. Or political appointee. Give them self esteem. Use the known true methods (DS used) 1960s. Thats a start. purpose and direction Invest in them. And u may have less finishing that prep course than u would like. but it’s a win win before u buy u get to try. Pay them decent pay. Then match that when they graduate. All just ideas. NO F***ing Politics PIRIOD……
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Has a 100% combat disabled debt who went back and finished his tour after recuperating from several life-threatening injuries. And most critical and important thing to me was my faith and trust in God, the God of my father's and my country that proclaimed in God we trust. The country that did not offend God by promoting things that offended him. Also the god of my family andand mother. Also having a godfaring president who would not go back on his word like Biden did when he said he would not make an mandatory for the military to get the COVID-19 shot while he was campaigning and then turning around and doing exactly that. Showing that he did not trust or extend to them the freedom to choose. Even in regards to their own health.
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We need to do like other countries, mandatory service. If you're too obese, off to Fat Camp before you serve your country. If you're too weak, off to Fitness Camp beforehand.
Private Bone Spurs has a lot of gall calling our service member 'losers'. The dust on the boots of those that served is worth more than he will ever own.
Private Bone Spurs has a lot of gall calling our service member 'losers'. The dust on the boots of those that served is worth more than he will ever own.
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SSG Carlos Madden
Just to pile on a bit even though it's a little off topic, the US education system and parents have really failed the last several decades on prioritizing physical fitness and diet. Way too many kids are fat and eat like crap and it's a legitimate readiness issue. Back in WWI they had to DQ a large percentage of draftees because they were borderline illiterate. That was a readiness issue so they standardized education and did something about it. They need to take a similar approach to physical fitness.
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Problem 1. Drugs
Problem 2. Overweight issues
Problem 3. The lack of interest.
Attract new Recruits with more and new benefits.
1. Extend Va benefits by adding more medical treatments to satellite facilities. Recruit more community health centers facilities. Currently for myself I am looking at having to drive 3 hours for an orthopedic hand surgeon, when there is one right here in town.
2. Enlistment for 4 years of active duty should get 2 years of Free Collage with an honorable discharge. The current cost of collage is insane, considering in most cases you're paying to go over the things you learn in high school for two years. You stay in for 8 or more years 4 years of Free Collage. College dropout in the first two years is mostly due to financing, so why not. Our fathers had the best G.I. Bill.
3. Lift the bans of recruiters from entering schools! Ban stupid Rules from schools for recruiters should restrict them to the career center one day a month at lunch time. That is total BS! A recruiter should at least have a space they can use in the lunchroom and an area in the library. Schools are receiving government funds they shouldn't be allowed to restrict the government access.
4. Change the registration for the draft, from the Post Office to recruiting stations. Considering the draft is part of the military process.
4. Start adding women to the registration of the Draft!
What good for the gander is good for the goose.
6. Explain the benefit that that is better to enlist into something now! That is more in line with their future goals, rather than being drafted and serving the needs of the military later. If your recalled back to duty at least you know what job your were trained to do. Due to current world conditions
Problem 2. Overweight issues
Problem 3. The lack of interest.
Attract new Recruits with more and new benefits.
1. Extend Va benefits by adding more medical treatments to satellite facilities. Recruit more community health centers facilities. Currently for myself I am looking at having to drive 3 hours for an orthopedic hand surgeon, when there is one right here in town.
2. Enlistment for 4 years of active duty should get 2 years of Free Collage with an honorable discharge. The current cost of collage is insane, considering in most cases you're paying to go over the things you learn in high school for two years. You stay in for 8 or more years 4 years of Free Collage. College dropout in the first two years is mostly due to financing, so why not. Our fathers had the best G.I. Bill.
3. Lift the bans of recruiters from entering schools! Ban stupid Rules from schools for recruiters should restrict them to the career center one day a month at lunch time. That is total BS! A recruiter should at least have a space they can use in the lunchroom and an area in the library. Schools are receiving government funds they shouldn't be allowed to restrict the government access.
4. Change the registration for the draft, from the Post Office to recruiting stations. Considering the draft is part of the military process.
4. Start adding women to the registration of the Draft!
What good for the gander is good for the goose.
6. Explain the benefit that that is better to enlist into something now! That is more in line with their future goals, rather than being drafted and serving the needs of the military later. If your recalled back to duty at least you know what job your were trained to do. Due to current world conditions
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LTC William Oliver
Or you could change basic training or add remedial training. It worked for me and my platoon. I came into the military late. I was 35 when I entered Officer Basic. All of the people in my group had been recruited for specific skills. The oldest recruit was 62 years old. I was one of the younger folk. As you might expect, we were mostly not prime physical specimens. Our DI acted more like a personal trainer than anything else. We didn't have a lot of ability coming in. Most of us were in middle age shape. But we were fairly highly motivated, and our DI took advantage of that. The 62 year old guy couldn't do a single lap when we started, but passed his PT test at the end straight up. At the end of the program, of the 50 or 60 of us, only three failed the final PT test as I remember. All of those who failed were middle-aged female nurses who could never develop the upper body strength to do the required push ups and such. It was devastating for them.
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SSG Douglas Shaffer
LTC William Oliver - I think we are addressing the combat arms and alike, Specially Skills are handled differently than 18-year-old infantrymen, and this is where the problem lies recruiting younger people who have no idea of what it is they want to do, sure you have those that ae going off to college because that is what mom and dad wants them to do. Then you have those that have no ambition to go to college or anything else for that matter or they don't have the recourses to do so. Yet when offered a job with some college benefits, they don't want to do it, or they can't, when I was recruiting, I had a lot of kids that would fail the drug test, or they were overweight, along with those that didn't graduate high school. The list goes on.
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LTC William Oliver
SSG Douglas Shaffer - I understand. I guess I was just thinking of how transformative my time in the military was. I was overweight when I was recruited, and since I was coming in as an officer, I had to lose the weight *before* I showed up at Ft. Sam. But... even as a Medical Corps officer, being in the Army changed my attitudes, my lifestyle choices, my physicality, my work ethic, and a number of other things. As a physician, I know that some of those changes have probably have added 20 years to my life span. My gut feeling is that a lot of these kids have problems getting in specifically because they need the transformation that the military would provide. I have advised my kin not to join, because they will be discriminated against when it comes to promotion and opportunities -- and they are already aggressive self-starters -- but in general I can't help but think that a few years with a few good NCOs are exactly what many of these kids need.
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Problem 1. Drugs
Problem 2. Overweight issues
Problem 3. The lack of interest.
Attract new Recruits with more and new benefits.
1. Extend Va benefits by adding more medical treatments to satellite facilities. Recruit more community health centers facilities. Currently for myself I am looking at having to drive 3 hours for an orthopedic hand surgeon, when there is one right here in y town.
2. Enlistment for 4 years of active duty should get 2 years of Free Collage with an honorable discharge. The current cost of collage is insane, considering in most cases you're paying to go over the things you learn in high school for two years. You stay in for 8 or more years 4 years of Free Collage. College dropout in the first two years is mostly due to financing, so why not. Our fathers had the best G.I. Bill.
3. Lift the bans of recruiters from entering schools! Ban stupid Rules from schools for recruiters should restrict them to the career center one day a month at lunch time. That is total BS! A recruiter should at least have a space they can use in the lunchroom and an area in the library. Schools are receiving government funds they shouldn't be allowed to restrict the government access.
4. Change the registration for the draft, from the Post Office to recruiting stations. Considering the draft is part of the military process.
4. Start adding women to the registration of the Draft!
What good for the gander is good for the goose.
6. Explain the benefit that that is better to enlist into something now! That is more in line with their future goals, rather than being drafted and serving the needs of the military later. If your recalled back to duty at least you know what job your were trained to do. Due to current world conditions
Problem 2. Overweight issues
Problem 3. The lack of interest.
Attract new Recruits with more and new benefits.
1. Extend Va benefits by adding more medical treatments to satellite facilities. Recruit more community health centers facilities. Currently for myself I am looking at having to drive 3 hours for an orthopedic hand surgeon, when there is one right here in y town.
2. Enlistment for 4 years of active duty should get 2 years of Free Collage with an honorable discharge. The current cost of collage is insane, considering in most cases you're paying to go over the things you learn in high school for two years. You stay in for 8 or more years 4 years of Free Collage. College dropout in the first two years is mostly due to financing, so why not. Our fathers had the best G.I. Bill.
3. Lift the bans of recruiters from entering schools! Ban stupid Rules from schools for recruiters should restrict them to the career center one day a month at lunch time. That is total BS! A recruiter should at least have a space they can use in the lunchroom and an area in the library. Schools are receiving government funds they shouldn't be allowed to restrict the government access.
4. Change the registration for the draft, from the Post Office to recruiting stations. Considering the draft is part of the military process.
4. Start adding women to the registration of the Draft!
What good for the gander is good for the goose.
6. Explain the benefit that that is better to enlist into something now! That is more in line with their future goals, rather than being drafted and serving the needs of the military later. If your recalled back to duty at least you know what job your were trained to do. Due to current world conditions
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The the woke garbage in the trash. The only purpose of the military is to train, fight, and win wars, not to get an attaboy from the ACLU
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