Posted on Jul 20, 2023
How would you solve the military recruiting challenges currently facing DOD?
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The recruiting struggles continue across all branches. What is causing it and how should it be addressed?
https://www.wsj.com/story/the-us-army-expects-to-end-up-15000-recruits-short-this-year-b5e9de86
https://www.wsj.com/story/the-us-army-expects-to-end-up-15000-recruits-short-this-year-b5e9de86
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Stop fighting a thousand small wars all over the world, young kids are wise to the propaganda and Military-Industrial-Congressional Complex that sees soldiers as fodder doing the dirty work to protect Oligarchies..
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Bring back the draft and get these kids causing trouble with guns, stealing etc: off the streets. Just maybe they will cleanup their act with the help from our DI's across the board. Coming from experience as a bad boy and getting kicked out of school, just maybe the draft update would be a good thing.
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The young in the U.S. nowadays only care about partying, protesting and living off their parents for as long as possible. They have no desire to work or to be serious about getting an education, so the military to them is too strict so they can't do what they want when they want. Taking orders is taboo to them.
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Young generations are being taught by all these evil people to hate America instead of loving or serving Her. Only way to fix it is going to take another generation to reverse the effects: Get all your conservative friends to the voting stations-- and make sure they get their friends to vote, and so on down the line. Get the ****ing activists out of the white house, out of congress and yes, even some of our freaking generals need to get BOOTED. Austin, Milley.. all of them. The buck stopped there.
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That is a tough problem to solve. I don't believe in lowering the standards of what it takes to be in service. PT tests, handling your individual weapon, etc. have to stay, lowering them will get people killed. But perhaps some of the other enlistment qualifications could be modified, not lowering it to Cat IV of the Armed Forces Qualification Test as McNamara did in Vietnam. But perhaps the medical and drug issues could be broadened. The age for enlistment has been increased and overweight has always been addressed. I rarely see commercials or advertisements for joining any of the armed forces, that could be punched up as others have suggested (or is it a sign of the regard the armed forces are held in?). But what about upping the pay, it's common knowledge that our lower ranks struggle especially those with families. We seem to be able to print money for immigrants and other questionable projects. Why not money for those who defend our country?
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Illegal migraines should be forced into military service to earn their citizenship and learn English, as well as a skill, and earn a paycheck, so they won’t be a burden to taxpayers. Watch fewer migrants trying to enter illegally! They shouldn’t get a free pass, but should earn a DD214 and VA benefits.
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Causes: #1 Wokeness, #2 We haven't won a war since WWII, #3 New generation only cares about themselves.
Cures: #1 Clean out all the deadwood in our mostly useless general officer corps. #2 Make service tough and honorable again. #3 Never lower standards- If we can't get enough people, then we manage with a leaner force. If we can't manage with that, then this country is no longer deserving of our blood.
Cures: #1 Clean out all the deadwood in our mostly useless general officer corps. #2 Make service tough and honorable again. #3 Never lower standards- If we can't get enough people, then we manage with a leaner force. If we can't manage with that, then this country is no longer deserving of our blood.
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When publicly traded companies fail to produce results, a change in management usually follows that restores profitability. Just saying
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Might be time to start offering citizenship to the border crossers in exchange for service.
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SSgt James Mathews
You might have some problems with that although a good Idea in part, The border crossers of today are not the same of in the past. Most and not all are here to get what they can and not to contribute. They must understand what the country is about. Right now everything is free for the taking. Give it a couple of years and then look at the ones that are willing to maintain the American way of life and not change it.
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How would I solve the problem? I would bring back the drill instructors from the 50's and 60's. Stop asking recruits to do something and stop being afraid that someone will be offended. Where is R. Lee Ermey?
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SSG Carlos Madden
I remember watching Full Metal Jacket as a kid and thinking he was scary and then I went though basic and realized he was actually kind of calm. haha.
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Allow older veterans/ those just out to come back in to the respect MOS's or learn newer skills and fill up those slots in the units. we have a lot of skills to the I for one would do it.
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I'd remove the requirement that a recruit possess a high school diploma or GED prior to enlistment. Can a high school drop out really not be able to serve in the military? How many GIs in World War II didn't have a diploma? Quite a few. If a recruit makes a certain minimum score on the ASVAB, let them join. Put those folks through some sort of GED course after basic training. I had buddy get his GED in the Army like that in the 1980s. Bring that program back. It will help recruiting some amount.
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Reinstitute the draft for anyone (boy or girl) over the age of 18 years old. If they are too fat or whatever to go directly into Boot Camp, put them in a special training facility to get them in shape for the draft.
Most of today's 18 to 24 year olds do not have any ambition to do anything except party, social media and playing games on their phones while living off of Mom and Dad. They have little respect for anyone because they believe nobody, including their parents, can touch them or be arrested. So then
the kids can do whatever they want without consequences.
I was a bad kid until the Navy made me a better man and I believe it can do the same for these young people today, along with filling our recruitment requirements.
Most of today's 18 to 24 year olds do not have any ambition to do anything except party, social media and playing games on their phones while living off of Mom and Dad. They have little respect for anyone because they believe nobody, including their parents, can touch them or be arrested. So then
the kids can do whatever they want without consequences.
I was a bad kid until the Navy made me a better man and I believe it can do the same for these young people today, along with filling our recruitment requirements.
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AN Alan Linn
It has nothing to do with politics, liberals or conservatives. It starts with poor law-making and parents not being allowed to correct their children when they are young. Americans are free to make their own choices, but haters try to make choices for everyone else. So everyone needs to quit dividing our country with liberal or conservative thinking and work together. There are too many other countries working against us, so we need to become more united within our own country.
Please stop the hatred !!
Please stop the hatred !!
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I would consider those Veteran who did not get to retire, not medically retired, but were Honorably discharged. I would be interested in serving.
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1. Improve healthcare. Just patching people up to go back to the line when there are new tests, new technologies, better meds because the Department of Defense and Services want to save money is poor and a betrayal to those serving and those who have served! It is not fair or just to push off health issues that could have been solved or improved so that Veterans pay the final cost! Allergies shouldn't become asthma because military doctors won't do allergy testing, prescribe better medicines. No active duty person should have to undergo endoscopies for heart burn every one to two years because the Department of Defense won't pay for nexium which works but costs $1.10 versus aciphex which has a 70% failure rate but costs .70!! That was from 2001 to 2010.
2. Jobs in Government or US Companies. Getting a job at age 50 years after 28 years of military service in four different career fields to include nursing, AFOSI, Forensics and Intelligence was impossible! No matter what job I applied for over 6 years and approximately 60 jobs, I was told I was overqualified meaning too old! I even went back to school and got another degree, but alas no job! Yes ageism is alive and well in the United States! The Department of Defense telling Veterans there are jobs in Government and US Companies just waiting for them is false!! It is amazing how a US Company can understand the military when competing for a billion dollar contract but not understand a Veteran or what they did when they are competing for a job! Frankly every US Company and Defense Contractor should be required to provide one job for every dollar they get from the Department of Defense! No job, no contract!! Yes it really is that simple!! Our US Companies and Government prosper on the backs of Veterans and do llittle to nothing for us during service or as we retire! And knowing someone or starting a business is not the answer and certainly not what we were promised when recruited! The most important lesson I tell folks these days is NEVER LET A JOB DEFINE YOU!
3. Recommending Military Service. By the age of 9 years I had been a hostage for six months each in military coupes in Peru and Libya where my Dad worked for Exxon. My Dad being a US Navy Vet in the Korean War raised us to be patriotic and to love our country which helped us survive hardship. We arrived in Libya in 1969, 72 hrs before Ghaddaffi took over Libya! Our first six months under marshal law and locked in our houses susceptible to being shot if found outside with tanks on the streets, soldiers shooting in the air and fighters flying overhead 24/7 would be the toughest of my life! The Commander of Wheelus AFB, Tripoli, Libya in 1969 was Colonel Daniel Chappie James, later to be the USAF's first Black Four Star General. He was a huge guy, warm, caring and bigger than life and he loved kids! He came to my Oil Company School every other month for a year before the USAF base was shut down and American Military thrown out. He spent that time talking about patriotism, citizenship, values, those things many of us grew up on and can still remember from the 1960s and 1970s! I would remember his lessons going onto Reserve Officer Training at Texas Christian University while majoring in Nursing and Spanish and them commissioned into the USAF for 28 years. While I still remain proud of my military service, and US values, I also feel betrayed by the Department of Defense and the US Air Force! How can I have been successful in four different career fields and achieved so much in the military to go into civilian life and never find a job! I feel lied to by the Department of Defense and the US Air Force to the extent that I don't recommend military service to anyone!
2. Jobs in Government or US Companies. Getting a job at age 50 years after 28 years of military service in four different career fields to include nursing, AFOSI, Forensics and Intelligence was impossible! No matter what job I applied for over 6 years and approximately 60 jobs, I was told I was overqualified meaning too old! I even went back to school and got another degree, but alas no job! Yes ageism is alive and well in the United States! The Department of Defense telling Veterans there are jobs in Government and US Companies just waiting for them is false!! It is amazing how a US Company can understand the military when competing for a billion dollar contract but not understand a Veteran or what they did when they are competing for a job! Frankly every US Company and Defense Contractor should be required to provide one job for every dollar they get from the Department of Defense! No job, no contract!! Yes it really is that simple!! Our US Companies and Government prosper on the backs of Veterans and do llittle to nothing for us during service or as we retire! And knowing someone or starting a business is not the answer and certainly not what we were promised when recruited! The most important lesson I tell folks these days is NEVER LET A JOB DEFINE YOU!
3. Recommending Military Service. By the age of 9 years I had been a hostage for six months each in military coupes in Peru and Libya where my Dad worked for Exxon. My Dad being a US Navy Vet in the Korean War raised us to be patriotic and to love our country which helped us survive hardship. We arrived in Libya in 1969, 72 hrs before Ghaddaffi took over Libya! Our first six months under marshal law and locked in our houses susceptible to being shot if found outside with tanks on the streets, soldiers shooting in the air and fighters flying overhead 24/7 would be the toughest of my life! The Commander of Wheelus AFB, Tripoli, Libya in 1969 was Colonel Daniel Chappie James, later to be the USAF's first Black Four Star General. He was a huge guy, warm, caring and bigger than life and he loved kids! He came to my Oil Company School every other month for a year before the USAF base was shut down and American Military thrown out. He spent that time talking about patriotism, citizenship, values, those things many of us grew up on and can still remember from the 1960s and 1970s! I would remember his lessons going onto Reserve Officer Training at Texas Christian University while majoring in Nursing and Spanish and them commissioned into the USAF for 28 years. While I still remain proud of my military service, and US values, I also feel betrayed by the Department of Defense and the US Air Force! How can I have been successful in four different career fields and achieved so much in the military to go into civilian life and never find a job! I feel lied to by the Department of Defense and the US Air Force to the extent that I don't recommend military service to anyone!
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Step 1...
Get rid of present Administration
and the far left.
Observe...
The rest will fall into place...
Get rid of present Administration
and the far left.
Observe...
The rest will fall into place...
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AN Alan Linn
It has nothing to do with left or right. That thinking is for haters. We are all Americans and we need to work together, just like we had to do while we served. We didn't worry about the left or right then... did we? If we want change, the voters need to make those changes happen, not individuals or a small group of so-called leaders.
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