Posted on Nov 22, 2013
Lt Col Sexual Assault Prevention & Response Program Manager
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CMDCM Gene Treants
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Back in the late 60's this attitude might, just might have been acceptable from a male member of a military service, but seriously today?  I think we have come a long way from worrying about how a Soldier or Sailor looks (female or male) and focus more on what the person accomplishes.  Recruiting has always used good looking members to attract new recruits, as advertising everywhere normally does. If you are selling a product, put on your best game face (pun intended).  

BUT, today I am more interested in the inside beauty of a person than the outside ugliness,  Put your best Solider on display; people who win Congressional Medals are not often Beauty Pagent winners.  However, they are inspirational. Works, not looks.
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SFC James Baber
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This was such a hot topic, I can't understand why the Col even had the gumption to even make the statement she did, I am appalled to think a senior member especially a female would have done what she did.


It is a stigma that has always followed many women throughout military and professional careers, but hopefully we have come further in the last decade of two wars to put a stop to the stereotype.

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Lt Col Sexual Assault Prevention & Response Program Manager
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I agree. I think we have come much furter as a military force. And I do give kudos for venues such as Rally Point, for allowing this type of discussion.
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I think this whole thing is totally ridiculous ..
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Huffington Post article...agree?
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That story reads like a Duffelblog article.

There are a couple of things about it that make it seem a little warped to me.

First, HuffPo, which is generally a left leaning outlet, sourced Politico, which has been accused of being a right leaning outlet.

Next, the person who supposedly made the statements was Col. Lynette Arnhart. One one hand, I could see a female who's trying to draw a female demographic, thinking like that. On the other hand, a female might see a statement like that harmful to whatever cause they're trying to promote.

Lastly, the individual making statements at the end was a D-Rep from Cali. Those are statements that BOTH sides of the aisle might want to sink their teeth into to use against their opponents, but I didn't see any remarks from anyone but the D-Rep from Cali.

I could be reading too far into it too. I think that maybe HuffPo was had by Duffelblog. Maybe we ought to add this to that thread.
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An interesting take . It's questionable at best for sure.
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SFC Brigade Career Counselor
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I'm still amazed that
HuffPo is considered a valid news source. I lumped them into tabloid and
propaganda status years ago.
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SSgt Forensic Meteorological Consultant
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Incredibly stupid article but since Huffington goes with the wind,  it does not surprise me.
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PO2 Alex M.
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I guess this is the evidence that supports the claims made by the shampoo commerical from your other post.... Would this fall into the "showoff" category?
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Lt Col Sexual Assault Prevention & Response Program Manager
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can you please expand?  who exactly do you believe is showing off?  thanks.
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PO2 Alex M.
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I don't think that anyone is showing off... in the Pantene commercial when the guy is crossing the street he is "smooth" but when the woman crosses the street she is a "show-off." So I just extended this to the article. Attractive men in the military are probably viewed as "smooth" to this public relations person and arractive women in the military are viewed as "show-off." And that logic led her to "ugly women are perceived as competent" which is what this article is about.
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Lt Col Sexual Assault Prevention & Response Program Manager
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Right...now I get how you've tied them together.  Makes sense.  Thanks!
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Whereas the entire Big Army Recruiting strategy takes a step back and shows simple photos of Soldiers engaged in their various duties both in training environments and deployed, the strategy described in this article nests rather nicely into the over-arching recruiting campaign. I for one don't have an issue or find the COL's recommendations either sexist or objectionable. If we are going to convince the American public (and more than a few of our own) that women can hold their own in CA MOSs, why is it we are always seeing images of the attractive, perfectly-manicured female Soldiers, and not the average female, with the sweat-streaked face and muddy boots at the end of a successful run through the obstacle course? I believe it is a sub-concious impulse, an action that is occurring without any active intent, so, there is no need to point fingers or throw anyone under the bus; it's just the way we've been conditioned to think and market our Army. But if we start showing the reality on the ground a little bit more, I think we can go along way towards expanding the comfort level with the idea of capable female Soldiers in this demanding combat roles.
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