Posted on Jun 12, 2019
I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?
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We have a new 1SG and new commander. The 1SG noticed one day that only 5 people in the whole company showed up to PT. Now he put out to all the platoon Sergeants that everyone must show up to PT at either the 0530 formation or the 1600 formation.
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
Company Commander
Physical Training
Army Regulations
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Edited 6 y ago
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What WOW you have it Made....
Hopefully you don't get deployed you can say goodbye to sleep....
Hopefully you don't get deployed you can say goodbye to sleep....
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There is a reason the 1SG wants you there at zero dark thirty. Take it as a compliment. While there is nothing wrong with asking your PLT SGT to ask for reconsideration, I wouldn't expect much change. Don't hesitate to ask, everyone is an adult and is entitled to speak on how they feel, not that all with care on your feelings but that is okay. As a team, we need to be able to better understand one another and learn to deal with each other on a professional level. Keeping quiet can makes things worse for yourself and morale; things that need to be avoided as some may walk, leaving the team that much smaller.
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Get a nap in the after PT and before your 1600 shift. If you’re worried about this just wait until you Get deployed or hit civilian life. You do what’s needed, no questions asked. Embrace the suck and move on.
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What the sh*t? There were many times I’d PT still very drunk and running only on 2-3 hours of sleep. One time I forgot I filled my camel pack with Vodka and I had to do a 3 mile run dried up with no water. Suck it up. You’re not in a position to be asked to do thongs that others haven’t been able to do before you.
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The way you resolve this issue effectively and professionally is show up for PT @ 0530 as this is part of your duty. Ask yourself what's going to happen, not if but when you hit the combat zone? It is your duty as an American Soldier to maintain yourself, be technically and tactically proficient in all tasks. This shouldn't even be a topic of conversation from a Professional Soldier.
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So, let me sum it up professionally -- SUCK IT UP, Specialist. Think four hours of sleep disqualifies you for doing your duty in a combat zone or during a deployment.
First eight months I was in the Air Force, I was sent from one Army post to another. Didn't disqualify me from falling in at a company formation or falling out for PT. Didn't gripe either when the first sergeant issued tooth brushes to clean the dirt out of the cracks in the Linoleum.
Are you in the Army or not?
First eight months I was in the Air Force, I was sent from one Army post to another. Didn't disqualify me from falling in at a company formation or falling out for PT. Didn't gripe either when the first sergeant issued tooth brushes to clean the dirt out of the cracks in the Linoleum.
Are you in the Army or not?
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I remember when I first got into Iraq as a Marine Corps infantryman, I got about 4 hours of interrupted sleep each day for about the first month, an hour or so here and an hour or so there.
Leading up to my deployments, it was not unusual to be sleep deprived during training. Suck it up. If you can't perform under these conditions, then you don't deserve to be in the military. You're not doing your part if you expect the rules to be changed because you're tired. This isn't the civilian world, and if you wish it were, maybe you shouldn't have joined in the first place.
Leading up to my deployments, it was not unusual to be sleep deprived during training. Suck it up. If you can't perform under these conditions, then you don't deserve to be in the military. You're not doing your part if you expect the rules to be changed because you're tired. This isn't the civilian world, and if you wish it were, maybe you shouldn't have joined in the first place.
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Segmented sleep, where you sleep for 4 hours, stay up for around 2 hours, then go to sleep for another 4, is supposedly a better way to sleep.
You should have time for 4 hours of sleep before pt, then take 4 hours of sleep after, and you could be better off.
You should have time for 4 hours of sleep before pt, then take 4 hours of sleep after, and you could be better off.
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