I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?

He let you sleep that long?

Have you ever read something so stupid, it makes you squint?

First if at 20 something you can’t live on 5 hours

Drill Sergeants get less sleep than that.
For us here on the trail it’s all about time management.
Luckily for me so far, when the trainees do not require DS presence, we would do shifts in that timeframe so the drills can try to get a break here and there during training. So far I have seen some good feedback on this post. Best of luck.

Sounds like you have a good 1stSgt!! Be tough you joined the military and thank god there are still leaders that hold people accountable.

You're not going to like my answer. You don't fix it. You show up for PT as ordered. Otherwise you open yourself up for NJP via article 15. I can remember many times having to do things I didn't like while in the military. That's the life you chose, volunteer Army and all. I'm pretty old school, but I can remember things like 72 hour ARTEPs where NO ONE slept. You did your job without sleep for 72 hours straight. We had Field problems that lasted days, and we were expected to be soldiers. Your 1st SGT got a case of the red ass when only 5 people showed up for PT. As the senior NCO in a company, he is entitled, allowed and expected to make corrections. This is a corrective measure. No doubt, as the first shirt is most likely an E8, or a Senior E7, the NCO/Section Chief meeting that precipitated this response was direct, and swift and sure. You seem to be laboring under the delusion that this is some how wrong, unfair, or that you feel inconvenienced. My sense is that your unit discipline was too relaxed in the first place if only 5 individuals felt the need to attend a mandatory formation. Military discipline is a necessity of the job. BCT was all about molding you into a soldier. You are a soldier first, and Lab technician second, don't confuse the order of things. That is why the Army also requires you to maintain your weight and qualify with a weapon. I can guarantee that if ANY 1st Sgt. shows up at a 0530 PT formation with only 5 members of his company with him, they will directly address the issue with their NCO corp, and this will happen every time. So if you are looking to blame someone, look to your left and right. In my mind, every soldier and NCO in your unit allowed this to happen with the lackadaisical approach to military discipline.

This was 7 months ago, so I’m guessing the issue has been resolved. I am a section NCOIC at an MTF with 24-Hour staffing. My guess is that your 1SG isn’t aware of your time crunch, or doesn’t realize how this is negatively affecting your sleep patterns. I’m a nurse, I understand that you need to be well rested to do our jobs optimally. SM and their dependents rely on us to be at the top of our game... but you gotta do PT.

At my MTC our leadership empowers me to train my shift working soldiers at a time that’s appropriate for their schedule that will maximize their effectiveness when treating patients. Your 1SG is a 68series too, and will understand the importance of an adequate sleep cycle.

I don’t find the hours you’re presenting unreasonable, but you should let your NCOIC know how this is affecting you negatively, present a solution, and see where it goes. Again, my shift working soldiers (who work 12 hour shifts, not 8 lucky) get more days off than most soldiers, and attend a PT session with other troops who work that shift schedule.

Morning PT at most MTFs is for soldiers who work the day shift. Honestly, your schedule is kind of unusual, maybe not for 68Ks but I’ve never heard of a 1600-0000 shift.

I was in the army in at 17. In basic training we were supposed to have four hrs. of sleep at night. we might get no sleep one night and eight hrs. the next. That equals eight hrs. in two nights. If you can not handle four hrs. of sleep you need tp consider a new field.

Let's not compare going to the club and getting drunk to regularly having a schedule.

Also, if and entire section has a schedule, that's not an individual person issue.

I'm not necessarily saying the suggestions here are totally wrong, but some of your reasonings are fucktarded.

I'm old, but I worked nights most of my time in. Mandatory formations were always at a bad time. You could speak with your supervisor, it you do not get a satisfactory response you could try following the chain of command. I am going to be honest, If I was your supervisor I would just think you were a whiner.