Posted on Jun 12, 2019
I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?
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We have a new 1SG and new commander. The 1SG noticed one day that only 5 people in the whole company showed up to PT. Now he put out to all the platoon Sergeants that everyone must show up to PT at either the 0530 formation or the 1600 formation.
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
Company Commander
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Army Regulations
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Edited 6 y ago
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What i didn't see in the original post was how many days a week PT formation is required.
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WOW, back in my basic days we worked till 1-2 AM polishing belt buckles. You know the ones we had to drag over the gravel yard while low crawling cause we didn't do 50 push-ups correctly. Then we were up at 4 to clean the Barracks bay. Oh, then, our DI would deliberately walk thru mud then our just polished bay and demand why the bay was muddy. He did this every day for 12 weeks. This was Ft Campbell Jan 1968. And every swing dick was Nam bound. Except a few enlisted, very few. Ah the good old days. Then AIT at Ft Monmouth NJ was more fun. The chow was so bad we'd empty 2-3 garbage containers of uneaten chow after every meal. Stuff was terrible. Then it was on to Nam. Stop complaining it can always get worse.
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I would talk to your your squad leader or PSG first, maybe then they can resolve this issue. Granted, if you get off shift at 2400 hrs it takes some time to get back to where you need to sleep and get actually get to sleep. Now I've been out partying in my younger days only to get back in time to change into PT uniform or maybe sleep for an hour or two but that was on me (and the guys with me). Use your chain of command before you try the open door policy most commanders and 1SG's have. Talk to your chain in person, not email, unless there's a special reason you want it documented in writing. I would avoid email at first.
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With her situation, she doesn't even have the chance to get the partying side of that equation in. All the suck, none of the fun.
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You can do what we all have done and just go, ask to switch shifts, take a nap after PT or comb your command instructions for some kind of relief but do remember that deployments mean a lot longer hours where I remember only being allowed 6 hours off shift a day.
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Deployments are two-shift, but if you're doing that in port, something's gone seriously wrong. That seems to be where she is.
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Not sure if this has been suggested, but could you get together with the others on your shift and see if there is a (third) time that works better for that shift, then bring it to the First Sergeant? If not, the schedule suggested where you go to sleep after PT could work, I’ve had to do something similar in the past. It’s not ideal, but better than nothing. For all of you telling the person to just “suck it up,” this is why we have a retention problem. If you are unwilling to make minor adjustments to schedules to ensure the safety of your people and those they take care of, then don’t complaining about manning shortages when people leave after their initial commitment.
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