Posted on Jun 12, 2019
I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?
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We have a new 1SG and new commander. The 1SG noticed one day that only 5 people in the whole company showed up to PT. Now he put out to all the platoon Sergeants that everyone must show up to PT at either the 0530 formation or the 1600 formation.
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
Company Commander
Physical Training
Army Regulations
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Edited 6 y ago
Posted 6 y ago
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Wow. Where are you stationed? Disneyland? We took naps in the Marines and found a wall to climb. What has happened to service to our country. Bo
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Wowie Batman! You're in the military now. Regulations state that soldiers can operate on 4 hours of non-consecutive sleep at minimum. They just have to allot time for you to rest. So in short, learn to manage your time properly so that you get proper rest the rest is out of your hands.
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Best bet is to see your NCOIC or Platoon Commander.
This sounds like the Co Cdr 1st Sgt have a time management and leadership issue.
This sounds like the Co Cdr 1st Sgt have a time management and leadership issue.
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LtCol Dennis Ivan
MSG Don Jones Nope, if the company commander and 1stSgt are too stupid or incompetent to be taxing their people disproportionately for their own convenience thats on them. Its called being a good leader. And given this is a Spc. maybe a couple of years vs a 1stSgt with 15 or more and a Capt with 5 or more plus OCS etc I can guarantee who the failure is.
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MSG Don Jones
The SP/4 needs to follow the order then explain the problem to the CoC it will work it's self out. The CoC is exercising control of a unit that seems to need some. After control is gained the exceptions will be made. It works better than onesies and twosies. It always does and always will. It's called being and exceptionally good leader
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LtCol Dennis Ivan
MSG Don Jones no MSG, its whats called pathetic leaders and SNCOs that should have exited long ago. "Exceptional leaders" already understand their unit, how it functions, and the schedules of all their people. "Exceptional leaders" dont need a SPC to tell them they are f'd up. Just washed up SNCOs and COs that are too lazy and too arrogant to get out of their office except for that one time they interact with their unit for the entire day.
There is a reason you are a MSG and not a 1stSgt.
There is a reason you are a MSG and not a 1stSgt.
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If you can not handle this on 4 hours sleep What the hell will you do under combat conditions. For God sakes Your not in the GIRL SCOUTS
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I agree with SFC Michael D., you are being prepared for battle at any given moment, you got this soldier!
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OH for pete's sake!!! Get deployed!! You will work for days on end with little sleep and your physical activity will go far beyond anything you do in PT!!!
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Get off shift, nap for about two or three hours, get up, go to PT, get that $#!+ done, bed back down for at least four more hours. This is my suggestion to YOU only. Deal with this as best as you can while you have the opportunity to sleep because when you deploy, your hours will be insane! If it is something you cannot adapt to and overcome after giving it a FAIR and HONEST effort, this job may not be for you.
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Wawawa....no solution necessary. Live with it...or get out. Thank you for your service.
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I don’t know what is your situation but when I was in, that was not an issue. However I was an 11B and sleep deprivation was part of the training
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