Posted on Jun 12, 2019
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We have a new 1SG and new commander. The 1SG noticed one day that only 5 people in the whole company showed up to PT. Now he put out to all the platoon Sergeants that everyone must show up to PT at either the 0530 formation or the 1600 formation.

However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.

I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.

As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.

How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
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CAPT Edward Schmitt
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I’m sorry, I consider this a stupid question. Go to PT. If war breaks out it will not be delayed to allow you to get rested.
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PV2 Glen Lewis
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Go to PT and get more sleep in the future.
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SP5 George Smith
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So, let’s think out of the box for this scenario. When should this trooper do his PT? If the command allowed it, could the SPC be allowed to do PT after getting 8 hours of sleep? It’s been awhile since I left the Army, 1976, after 8 years. Nam was over and I thought what’s an Army without a war? Is combat ready still a general goal in the services? Does every MOS get 8 hours of sleep? Does training together to create that bond of taking care of your buddy still work?…especially when the SHTF at anytime, day or night. Do people still test themselves to see what their limits are under controlled stress environments? If one’s fortitude, endurance, emotional stamina, buckled under a controlled environment is that an indicator that the real deal is a game crusher?
I have no answers or qualify as a judge to pass judgement. I only see one unit with one mission attempting to serve a multitude of personal agendas that will dilute our armed services efforts to be ready when the time comes. And that’s an observation.
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TSgt Beth Peterson
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Amazing...
You agreed to follow orders when you enlisted in the United States Army. ALL orders - not just the ones you like. Congratulations on having just an 8-hour shift! Work, sleep, go to PT as you have been ordered (!!!), then go back to sleep.

By the way... there are Army Regs supporting this requirement - under FOLLOWING ORDERS. More, too, under what happens when you, personally, decide to NOT follow orders.
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CPL John C. Lynch
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When did any MOS become an 8 hour only Job? Suck it up snowflake. When you complete your enlistment you can discuss the hours you want to be available with your new employer. I pity them and their HR Department though--you sound like a pampered--privileged, the world owes me everything, whiner. Yes--you sound like you're whining.
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SFC Bruce Smith
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I took a different approach when my guys were on odd hours and didn’t worry about everyone being at PT together. The leadership always had someone there to lead PT at different times during the day and knew which soldiers should be there. I just did an assessment of everyone’s duty hours, accepted volunteers among the leaders, then filled in the gaps with someone capable. It was an idea so flexible I personally threw in a 1430 session that became a spectacle because it was so odd. With some soldiers having to report at 0230 hours it was just one more thing we could do to maintain readiness.
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PO3 Robert Buckels
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It does sound unreasonable, maybe talk to your leadership at the hospital. I know some commands don't like it when Platoon leadership interferes in the abilities of their personnel. The job is your first priority, not your PT schedule. It's probably not cool to expect you to return to your rack after PT. I remember when I was in the Navy we were not allowed to even sit on our racks during the day, but we did have a special section and a different muster/PT schedule for evening and overnight personnel, but those of us who pulled a mid-shift on our duty days were required to muster at 0600 hours. your only excuse for not being there was medical or on duty (0400-0800). If you are allowed to return to your rack for a couple of hours, then I would take that option and not stir the pot cause it could get worse. Good luck.
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CPL Motor Transport Operator
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Quit being a Mamby Pansy! Some of older GI's Remember being on Guard Duty for 3 on and 1 off. Some had to stay on for up to5 days running on Coffee and anything Caffeine just so we did our jobs and pulled our weight, This is not even the HARD thing to do. What ya gonna do when your out in a Hospital or Feild Hospital in Country and A full bird comes up or your section SGT and Hands you a weapon and a Can full of AMMO Says Your turn you got the watch till the Next soldier comes to relieve you? Your not there to make Friends, your their to TRAIN and Get ready for what's coming. Friends are just the Cake on the plate. You have to get in the Mindset that your hear to work and get it DONE!
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PO2 John Schneider
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Grow up and go to PT
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PVT Darrell Ballein
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hate to say this,but you are kind of whineing man...if you werent prepared to sacafrise your time to be trained to be the best soldier you can be,then you should change your career.you dont get breaks in combat my friend....not being rude just presenting the facts..
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