Posted on Jul 8, 2016
I am currently looking at requesting Army recruiter for my next assignment. What does the daily life looks like for recruiters now?
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A direct quote from the Recruiter Instructor (E8 career recruiter) in charge of my area to the NCOICs of the local offices..."Canvassing recruiters (the ones assigned temporarily, 3 years in USMC) are commodities. Use them up and spit them out. If they leave with their sanity and marriages intact, you haven't done your job. You must drive them with reckless abandon." This was in front of the CO and SGTMAJ.
Other than that and the 25 lbs gained from sitting in car/desk, I never would have picked up GYSGT without getting the check in the box.
Other than that and the 25 lbs gained from sitting in car/desk, I never would have picked up GYSGT without getting the check in the box.
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It's been awhile.. it's not an easy life, but as somebody else said, you do get to go home every night, but you probably won't see your kids much. Some days begin at 4 AM picking up kids to take to MEPS.. drop them off to meet the 7 AM check in then back to the office (which could be hours away) .. phone calls, cold calls.. school visits.. Pick up your new DEPOSIT if he beat the odds and didn't get disqualified. Take him home, chat with his parents, back to the office to make those 2 or 3 appointments you need for the day still.
If you are in a tough area expect long hours EVERYday.
Expect to drive long distances for zero roller training.. and know your career is at risk EVERY single day. Miscount your call log... don't update your school lists correctly.. they will show you no mercy, and they could care less how great a soldier you were or how great an infantryman you are... you don't produce you'll hear your career and your livelihood threatened everyday..
If I had to do it over again I think I would just ETS and start a new career. Living remotely with no support and the hours put in, more beneficial to start your civilian career and education. You can work full time and go to school full time and put in less hours
If you are in a tough area expect long hours EVERYday.
Expect to drive long distances for zero roller training.. and know your career is at risk EVERY single day. Miscount your call log... don't update your school lists correctly.. they will show you no mercy, and they could care less how great a soldier you were or how great an infantryman you are... you don't produce you'll hear your career and your livelihood threatened everyday..
If I had to do it over again I think I would just ETS and start a new career. Living remotely with no support and the hours put in, more beneficial to start your civilian career and education. You can work full time and go to school full time and put in less hours
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Find a good National Guard recruiting slot and recruit close to your home area. It is AGR for three years, and you can go back to active duty when your contract is completed....or you can renew for another three years and stay on AGR status. The only caveat is that your active duty commander will have to allow your release, or you can simply ETS and enlist into the guard. Either way, it takes a special mindset to endure the grind, and it really does matter what support you have at the command level. In my opinion, the Army (and all military) should focus more on retention of quality troops, rather than purging to reduce numbers and save money, only to replace those reductions with kids who may not want the upward mobility, anyway...or who aren't yet ready to fill those roles. It can be cut-throat, but it also offers flexibility in the workplace. The choice is yours....it's not a job for everyone. You must be emotionally strong and have a lot of intestinal fortitude to withstand that gauntlet. Good luck, and we hope you make the right choice for yourself and for the Army.
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SFC Jim Enghusen
I've been on both sides, USAREC and National Guard. National Guard is not even close to being as brutal as USAREC. The biggest difference is only 20 percent of USAREC recruiters volunteer, 100 percent of National Guard recruiters volunteer. Because 80 percent of USAREC recruiters don't want to be there the command is much more iron fisted to make sure the recruiters do their job.
Also, in my State, it's extremely difficult to get an AGR position. If you get one in recruiting and don't make mission, you do not keep your AGR job, you are placed back on M-Day (one weekend a month) status.
The National Guard (in my State) gets a yearly mission of 24. If you come anywhere close to that you are successful. They have zero walkin traffic because they are stashed away in secure armories. They have little to none sells training. However, every Ex-USAREC recruiter that works in my State finds the recruiting very easy, and they were not superstars in USAREC.
Also, in my State, it's extremely difficult to get an AGR position. If you get one in recruiting and don't make mission, you do not keep your AGR job, you are placed back on M-Day (one weekend a month) status.
The National Guard (in my State) gets a yearly mission of 24. If you come anywhere close to that you are successful. They have zero walkin traffic because they are stashed away in secure armories. They have little to none sells training. However, every Ex-USAREC recruiter that works in my State finds the recruiting very easy, and they were not superstars in USAREC.
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I will advise you to look at it from a different angle. There are a variety of jobs in the Army that are demanding and very challenging and Recruiting is one of those jobs. You should look at it in the lens of what will I learn from this assignment? How can this assignment affect my career? Is this the right time to take an assignment such as this one? If you look at recruiting in that manner when the tough times hit you will know why you did it. I spent 4 years out there putting people in the Army and it was one of the most rewarding assignment I had. I learned more about myself as a leader and what it takes to lead Soldiers there. It was a very humbling experience and I for one would recommend anyone to take an assignment like this.
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It takes a certain, undefinable 'something' to be a successful recruiter. Bottom line is that recruiting is sales. Are you good at sales?
As a Recruiting Company commander I knew some very exceptional recruiters, including many that converted to 79R and make it a career. I have a special place in my heart for those guys.
I also had some recruiters who couldn't recruit Audie Murphy on D-Day.
As a Recruiting Company commander I knew some very exceptional recruiters, including many that converted to 79R and make it a career. I have a special place in my heart for those guys.
I also had some recruiters who couldn't recruit Audie Murphy on D-Day.
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SFC James Johnson
yeah so no matter how good of a soldier you were before recruiting, if you're not a "sales man" it's the kiss of death for your career
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I was a drafted recruiter back in the mid 80's. I made mission monthly and was a station commander. I earned a gold badge with sapphire when I left recruiting after three and a half years. You're on duty 24 hours a day. You do get a little family life but your mission comes first. Every day you will be micro managed from the minute you walk into the station until you shut off the lights late in the evening after making your hundred or more phone calls. It can be rewarding and for those that like to sell it's a good job to have. However, I didn't like being a salesmen. One other thing is that you never have to lie to who ever you are talking to about the Army. Never!
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Worst three years of my life. Saw several of the chain of change above me get court martialed. 70-80 hour weeks were the norm, and I had several leave chits "lost in routing" for weeks at a time. Out of the five recruiters in my office, four of us were on some kind of antidepressants or antianxiety medication. The Recruiter in Charge of my office spent 18 months in prison.
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