Posted on Jul 8, 2016
I am currently looking at requesting Army recruiter for my next assignment. What does the daily life looks like for recruiters now?
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Recruiting was the death of my career. I couldn't stand snobby disrespectful kids that you have to talk to and deal with on a daily bases. Honestly it didn't feel like I was even in the army anymore. Recruiting is so cut throat. You'll see some crazy shit. In my time in recruiting it made me rethink the people that I served with. If you are wanting to do a special assignment go drill sergeant. The only people on recruiting that do well are the turds.
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SGT John Boyles
SFC J Fullerton - True, there are some that are just lucky and do good. The other half end up being shady.
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SGT Bolyes I would never assume to know you or what you did in the Army. But to quote you "only people who do well on recruiting are turds" so if you did well and your fellow recruiters did well you all are turds in your opinion. I feel you could be an awesome NCO and person if you would stop selling yourself short.
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CW2 Ernest Krutzsch
They chose the people for Recruiting based on their previous service. When you do well in the Infantry, they know you are not a quitter. The one's that went bad were driven bad, by demands to put people in the Army at whatever cost, or your career was shot. I was a decent Recruiter, but also didn't put up with their shit. You want to ruin my career go for it, you send me back to the Infantry, I was successful there before, will be again! You had to call their bluff. I was successful because I was truthful, word of mouth that whatever I told a recruit was the honest truth went a long way.
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Well... They told me it would be Monday through Friday, pretty much 9-5... Believe that if you want. Other that, it's like pretty much any assignment. Experiences will vary. It really depends on where you go. I can only HIGHLY recommend Dallas BN, Plano Co. The people out here seem to really love us
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SPC Blake Rauscher
That's actually the station I got recruited out of back in the day, always has been a good station.
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It is simultaneously the hardest and best thing I have ever done.
Some words of advice:
1. It will always be your fault
2. The clock resets every first day of the month. You could have put in 20 kids and they'll say, put in 25.
3. Don't have sex with DEPers.
4. Don't have sex with their friends or their parents.
5. Don't lie. Perpetuation is the key to success. You become the recruiter who lies, you won't get follow up business.
6. If you are married--it needs to be understood you will get phone calls at 10pm, 3am, every day. Even on Christmas. On Thanksgiving Day people will want to come in for an appointment. there is no real "time off". The phone, your laptop, will come with you on vacation.
7. Don't be the recruiter who doesn't work well with others. If you reach out to other branches and help them out, they will return the favor. You become the scum who lies about other branches, no one will trust you and want to help you out.
8. Don't have inappropriate relations in your office or in your government vehicle.
9. Don't have sex with DEPers.
10. Remember it isn't about you. It's about them. Do right by the "kids" and they will do right by you.
Some words of advice:
1. It will always be your fault
2. The clock resets every first day of the month. You could have put in 20 kids and they'll say, put in 25.
3. Don't have sex with DEPers.
4. Don't have sex with their friends or their parents.
5. Don't lie. Perpetuation is the key to success. You become the recruiter who lies, you won't get follow up business.
6. If you are married--it needs to be understood you will get phone calls at 10pm, 3am, every day. Even on Christmas. On Thanksgiving Day people will want to come in for an appointment. there is no real "time off". The phone, your laptop, will come with you on vacation.
7. Don't be the recruiter who doesn't work well with others. If you reach out to other branches and help them out, they will return the favor. You become the scum who lies about other branches, no one will trust you and want to help you out.
8. Don't have inappropriate relations in your office or in your government vehicle.
9. Don't have sex with DEPers.
10. Remember it isn't about you. It's about them. Do right by the "kids" and they will do right by you.
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Now the good:
1. You will learn so much about yourself because you will be pushed beyond your limits and then realize your limits are just hurdles.
2. You will be a part of something so much bigger than yourself.
3. You will make a difference in a Recruit/DEPer's life that will stay with you forever.
4. The ones that you work the hardest for will typically be the ones that disappoint you the most, but the ones that keep contacting you, even after Basic, will make up for them.
5. The amount of fun stuff you can be a part of are immense. The more involved in your community and other branches the more fun you will have. I went to baseball/football/nascar events. Sat in fighters/bombers/gunners/tanks--and it wasn't while deployed.
6. The lessons you learn with stay with you forever.
7. You will come out a different person, and hopefully for the better.
1. You will learn so much about yourself because you will be pushed beyond your limits and then realize your limits are just hurdles.
2. You will be a part of something so much bigger than yourself.
3. You will make a difference in a Recruit/DEPer's life that will stay with you forever.
4. The ones that you work the hardest for will typically be the ones that disappoint you the most, but the ones that keep contacting you, even after Basic, will make up for them.
5. The amount of fun stuff you can be a part of are immense. The more involved in your community and other branches the more fun you will have. I went to baseball/football/nascar events. Sat in fighters/bombers/gunners/tanks--and it wasn't while deployed.
6. The lessons you learn with stay with you forever.
7. You will come out a different person, and hopefully for the better.
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This is by far the best response I've read for this duty. I got DA selected and will be going to to school in a couple of months. Thank you
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Yeah... I was a great recruiter, but I was also a bad one... I made sure my people got taken care of, but I trumped the norms of recruiting. My station commander and I fought ALL the time. I was smarter than him, and I knew it. He knew it too. And it caused a boatload of problems. But I largely ignored him, and did things my way.
I was also overly "honest" to applicants and parents. If little Johnny was an idiot, I made sure the demanding parents knew it was their fault.
I was also overly "honest" to applicants and parents. If little Johnny was an idiot, I made sure the demanding parents knew it was their fault.
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Run don't look back. Recruting has been the death of many great NCO's. Recruiting is NOT the Army and yea it will destroy you mariage
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Army Recruiting is based on a lot of things... location, leadership, and drive. First location I have been in Iowa and it has it's days but hard to get to markets allow for long nights at times. But try to get a good location the best you can and make the best of it. However if you get a bad location like the pacific west coast or some of the Midwest just embrace the challenge and drive on.
Second leadership, if you have good leadership that cares about the Soldier, then the mission you will have an amazing environment. Understand that in Recruiting the mission never stops, we do not have breaks. Its not about what you did, its about what you have (in regards to pushing enlistments). Recruiting will challenge your leadership, but it will more so teach you how to effectively manage your time.
Third is drive, you have to want to be successful. Don't worry about other Soldiers just focus on what's in your ruck. Trust me you will have enough rocks in your ruck, a lot of troops allow the actions of a few to bog down there production, be strong, be resilient!
Overall just inspire others to be you, and this will help you tell the Army Story. I have completed my time in USAREC and now am about to leave it to return to my CMF. SSG Charlton if you want to stand out from your peers do it, worked for me.
Second leadership, if you have good leadership that cares about the Soldier, then the mission you will have an amazing environment. Understand that in Recruiting the mission never stops, we do not have breaks. Its not about what you did, its about what you have (in regards to pushing enlistments). Recruiting will challenge your leadership, but it will more so teach you how to effectively manage your time.
Third is drive, you have to want to be successful. Don't worry about other Soldiers just focus on what's in your ruck. Trust me you will have enough rocks in your ruck, a lot of troops allow the actions of a few to bog down there production, be strong, be resilient!
Overall just inspire others to be you, and this will help you tell the Army Story. I have completed my time in USAREC and now am about to leave it to return to my CMF. SSG Charlton if you want to stand out from your peers do it, worked for me.
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SSG Charlton,
USAREC is great opportunity. I enjoyed my time while I was out there which made it go by really fast. Inbox me I'll tell you what made me successful and how to have fun while doing it.
USAREC is great opportunity. I enjoyed my time while I was out there which made it go by really fast. Inbox me I'll tell you what made me successful and how to have fun while doing it.
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What you have heard so far, both good and bad, is on target. But what you haven't heard yet is that the long arm of USAREC can come back and get you after you have done your 3 year tour. You will earn a secondary MOS of 79R when you graduate the recruiting course. Every SFC board after, you will be looked at by both CMF's. If your primary MOS is one with an over abundance of eligible SSG's and limited SFC forecasted vacancies, you will automatically be considered in your secondary MOS. And guess what, USAREC needs more 79R E7's than what voluntarily converts. So the DA selection board has no choice but select SSG's for E7 as 79R's who were not selected in their PMOS. Happened to me in 2000. I turned it down and was removed from the list. When the next list came out in 2001, I was on it again in my SMOS 79R. Had no choice but to take it or screw myself to ever make E7. I had to go back to recruiting school, and about 3/4 of that class were all gold badge re-treads, newly promoted SFC 79R's. That was 2002. To my knowledge, it still happens with every E7 board. That is your reward for doing such a great job during your 3 year detailed tour. Good Luck!
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MSG (Join to see)
Before I made E7 there was a block I would have to check if I wanted to be considered for promotion as a 79R. Never did, thank god, so now it appears to be voluntary.
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SFC J Fullerton
MSG (Join to see) - Never such a block before. If you were not selected in your PMOS and held 79R as a secondary, then you were automatically considered. So they say. However, I got the inside scoop back in '01 that USAREC was in such dire straits for E7's, that E6's with PMOS's that were top heavy on SSG's, and held 79R as SMOS, got their promotion packets put in the USAREC pile without even being considered in their PMOS. Needs of the Army always wins. Which explains why most of the other retreads in my class were 11C's, 11M's, and 19K's.
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I did my recruiting duty at the beginning of OEF/OIF, and before my 36 months were up I was involuntarily extended making my tour 52 months! I was successful but I hated recruiting! Being in the tundra of Brainerd, Mn didn't help!!
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SPC Jim Johnson
Grew up in Minnesota its either decent weather or bad weather. I know a lot of my friends over the years have joined from all over Minnesota. Its a proud tradition to join the military in that state.
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GySgt Kenneth Pepper
Did my 3 years in Buffalo, Minn. 8 months of winter. Makes area canvassing almost impossible. Late nights with the HS phone list.
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36 month tour, every month is reset (zero to hero), you're never truly off, your tracked everywhere (gov has tattler system, cell phone tracking, electronic logs for canvassing).. You got MEPS drives which is for contracting or shipping. Say goodbye to 96 and 72 hour libo. If you have a family, you'll barely see them. If you do see them, they're most likely asleep. That's most of the negatives... Positives.. Not much.
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