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MSG Special Forces Senior Sergeant
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Getting out after 5 months because you sprained your ankle and got depressed doesn't make you a veteran. Further, it's a slap in the face to people who have done amazing things to earn that title. So no, your coworker is not a Veteran. She's a quitter.
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SPC Chris Ison
SPC Chris Ison
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SGT Warren Crutcher - I qute:

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TSgt Bruce Davis - Lol. Ok bud. You think that someone who fails to complete basic because of sand in the vagina should be considered a veteran. Let's walk this person around the VA hospital and introduce them to some Korea and Vietnam veterans. Let's see what they have to say..

Notice here this asshole, who thinks if you do not complete basic and AIT you are not a veteran, also seems to think the VA would be absent veterans form other conflicts.

If you join the military and are in a deuce and a half and it rolls over, and you break you back, are you a veteran?

Yes you are, you did everything right and life threw you for a loop. The VA will still pay out that claim, period, end of story.
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SGT Warren Crutcher
SGT Warren Crutcher
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I would say it depends on what your DD-214 says. You might see them as Veterans but it's how your branch of service classifies your discharge. My Niece was Medically discharged from Basic Training due to an injury and received an Unclassified Discharge. Unclassified Discharges give you no benefits with the VA Period. So that should tell you that it is a case by case situation.
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PVT J Leonard
PVT J Leonard
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MSG (Join to see) As the saying goes, walk a mile in that person's boots. If the person suffered a catastrophic type on injury that medically did not allow them to continue through training, and still allowed a medical discharge, by your reasoning they dont deserve anything? This is why some of the refs got change, and while not necessarily for the better, do help individuals in situations like the example.
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To receive Veteran status. You have to have served on Active duty service for 180 consecutive days without a break. Then you are a Veteran.
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PO1 Phillip Weekley
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I served five years in recruiting and I remember in our recruiting manual stating that you must have completed 180 days of consecutive service to be considered a veteran.
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PV2 Glenn E Moody
PV2 Glenn E Moody
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that is the Requirement to join the AMVETS but the AMERICAN LEGION IS ONE DAY OF ACTIVE DUTY during dates of A conflict as set forth by CONGRESS up until resent they changed it to anyone that served and got his/her Honorable Discharge
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SPC Antonio Price
SPC Antonio Price
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Technically still not a veteran because 5 months is only 150 days
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LCpl Odell Taylor
LCpl Odell Taylor
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I joined the USMC SIXTY(60) years ago last month, August. Many, many changes have occurred since I was in, therefore, I'm not sure of much of anything that applies today.

But this I know to be a FACT since it involved myself. I was 5'6" and weighed but 105 pounds, which was 6 pounds under the acceptable limit, at the time of my entrance medical exam. I initially was turned down. I BEGGED to be accepted and allowed into the USMC.

I was told that I would be required to sign a waiver to the effect that should they discover a pre-existing ailment that caused me to have to be medically discharged after serving 180 days of active service that I would not seek disability compensation from the USMC, which I signed. Three years, three-hundred and sixty-three days later, weighing 110 pounds I was Honorably Separated w/recommendation for re-enlistment still ONE(1) pound underweight!

Whether that actually would have anything to do with the subject of what qualifies one to be known as and called a Veteran...I'll leave that to the more informed! BUT...I will always and forever PROUDLY claim the title of UNITED STATES MARINE and to be a US Military Veteran!

Have A Nice Day...Molon Labe...Semper Fi
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LCpl Odell Taylor
LCpl Odell Taylor
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SCPO Lonny Randolph -
Sorry to disagree with you but I did take offense...and expressed same to him!
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SFC George Sease
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I would have to say that the person in question cannot be considered a veteran. 1. Did not finish training (AIT), 2. did not get assigned to a unit that was not a training unit . 3. Was not in a combat zone, 4. More than likely did not receive the National Defense Ribbon, 5. Did not receive a ribbon for the Cold War, 6. Their DD214 should be able to answer some interesting questions-like why did they not stay in.
I would have to say that nope. Sparky does not get to be called a veteran.
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PO2 Chad Thompson-Smith
PO2 Chad Thompson-Smith
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Yes his comment has pissed a lot of us off. He is probably happy with himself.

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SGT Warren Crutcher
SGT Warren Crutcher
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Sounds like PO2 Chad Thompson-Smith has some anger issues that might need to be looked into. Just saying.
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LCpl Odell Taylor
LCpl Odell Taylor
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SFC George Sease
When I joined the USMC SIXTY(60) years ago last month, August, we did not get even one of those ribbons you mentioned designed specifically for modern-day Snowflakes that require at least some kind of an 'I participated' award or trophy. I saw not ONE(1) second of combat because I was in and out before Vietnam ever got 'HOT'! Therefore, ALL I have are my shooting badges and a Good Conduct Ribbon!

I did not meet all the criteria which you listed. But, please, do not tell me you have the gall to say I should not consider myself a US Military Veteran after serving FOUR(4) hard-ass years in the USMC...willing to risk life and limb in defense of this GREAT NATION should it have become necessary! In good conscience, I couldn't state "freely willing to risk" because the US Government did pay me a little over ONE-THOUSAND DOLLARS ($1000) a YEAR!

I have participated more in this discussion than any other discussion on this site. Since it was my desire from the time I was but a toddler to be a combat Marine, every time I see what SOME here consider to be qualifying factors necessary in order to be known as and called a US Military Veteran I am almost compelled to seek psychiatric advice... Please note I said, almost!

Btw... I have TWO(2) sons. The youngest volunteered for Iraq and Afghanistan as a US Marine. He was hit by an IED. When he registered with the VA and applied for benefits his records were incomplete and stated nowhere on them where nor when he had EVER been in combat. In FACT one stated he had NEVER! He had to do ALL of the legwork to get the errors corrected! He was denied for several years before! He now is 100% disabled w/backpay, so I guess he meets your criteria.

My oldest son served four years in the USMC and was Honorably separated, never having seen ONE(1) second of combat nor heard a shot fired in anger. Would you call him a US Military Veteran? WAIT!! There is more. He then joined the US Army, has completed every survival training course the US Military has to offer, is a paratrooper, was awarded the Bronze Star in Iraq for singlehandedly rescuing five civilians while under heavy and intense enemy fire, and now is an E8 SSgt. I asked why he didn't stay in the USMC. His answer: "Dad, I wanted to be able to take it easy for a while"!! He has never once bragged nor boasted to me. I did not know he had been awarded the Bronze Star until two years after. And I am as proud of both as any father could ever be!!

Since he still is in the US Army is he a US Military Veteran? After all, he does have a separation form known as a DD214 as well as an Honorable Discharge from the United States Marine Corps which is customarily AWARDED, if rated, after a FULL six years following acceptance into ANY branch of the US Military...exactly like those his ol' silver-haired dad possesses...Have A Nice Day...Molon Labe...Semper Fi
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SGT Leonard Frank
SGT Leonard Frank
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Just a quick comment, I thouht once you left basic you got the National Defense ribbon at least while we are in conflict somewhere? I may be wrong
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