Posted on Aug 8, 2021
I have a few questions about National Guard retirement when you go OCS (see below for details) . What pay will I receive at 20 yrs?
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Greetings,
I have received conflicting information and am unable to confirm which is correct. I am trying to plan for retirement and I am sitting at 15 years total time in service. I have 4 years of active duty to receive the “e” pay. I hope to work for 25-30 years total but want to make an informed decision.
What are my options when I hit 20 years? Do I have to perform 10 years of service to retire as an officer if I went from the enlisted to office side? I just completed OCS and I have contacted my state retirement office whom is unable to give me any good answers with supporting documents. I have read that the 10 years of officer time applies to active duty. (See article). I have also been told I would receive my high three for pay but “retire” as my previous enlisted rank if I do not perform 10 as an officer.
https://themilitarywallet.com/retire-as-commissioned-officer/
Are there any other benefits to retiring as an officer versus enlisted other than pay?
Any articles or supporting documents would be much appreciated. Thank you!
Ben
I have received conflicting information and am unable to confirm which is correct. I am trying to plan for retirement and I am sitting at 15 years total time in service. I have 4 years of active duty to receive the “e” pay. I hope to work for 25-30 years total but want to make an informed decision.
What are my options when I hit 20 years? Do I have to perform 10 years of service to retire as an officer if I went from the enlisted to office side? I just completed OCS and I have contacted my state retirement office whom is unable to give me any good answers with supporting documents. I have read that the 10 years of officer time applies to active duty. (See article). I have also been told I would receive my high three for pay but “retire” as my previous enlisted rank if I do not perform 10 as an officer.
https://themilitarywallet.com/retire-as-commissioned-officer/
Are there any other benefits to retiring as an officer versus enlisted other than pay?
Any articles or supporting documents would be much appreciated. Thank you!
Ben
Posted >1 y ago
Responses: 4
Ben your years as enlisted and officer all count toward your 20 as long as each year is considered a good year. The higher the points the higher the rank the better the retirement. If you’re going officer you’ll wanna get to at least Captain or above. If you look at examples under the calculator under the HR site that your CAC card allows you to access you can find out how the math work as an E-8 vs an O-2. As far as memory serves successful service after three years at any grade after 20 years service would qualify you for reserve retirement. Be sure you have all your paper work straight especially your 20 year letter and your DD249? Points sheet. I e met numerous prior senior NCOs that went onto become Officers. I strongly encourage you to keep hard copies of all your paperwork. I once met a Guard Colonel with 30 plus years service but his paperwork was messed up on the Guard side. He only had credit on the reserve side for three years. He was working in fixing the issues. Ultimately even the Guard becomes a part of the Federal Reserve by age 60 in order to get the Federal Retirement benefit.
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CSM David Porterfield
Agreed Sir! Stay on top of your retirement sheets and make sure they're correct. The longer you go without fixing something the harder it will be to fix it. Also remember you have to hit minimum points based on your retirement month not fiscal years. Within that year you need to earn a minimum of points for it to be considered a good year.
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It's been a while but if I remember correctly, you have to serve as an officer for 10 years to retire as an officer. Otherwise you revert back to your last enlisted rank. I remember this because as a First Sergeant I was offered a direct commission to 2LT but after looking into it it didn't make sense for me.
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2LT (Join to see)
Thats what I have been told but have also read that the 10 year rule only applies to active duty. I have some homework to do!
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There is no TIS requirements for Guard Officers. You need 20 good years. The pay method should be either Final Pay or High 36, which should be close anyway. You final retirement pay will be your Pay Grade for your TIS (including any Gray Area time) based on your total points divided by 360x2.5%
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CSM David Porterfield
I wonder if that's changed? I know NCO's in the Guard have a commitment once they're promoted such as 2 years or 3 years in order to retire at that rank.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
CSM David Porterfield - He is wondering if Guard/Reserve Officer get hit with the 10 years Commissioned Service to retire as an Officer on Active Duty. As far as I know, enlisted are only required to serve six months in a rank to retire in it. The only additional thing for officers is that O-5's and above have to have three years in grade to retire in that rank.
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CSM David Porterfield
CPT Lawrence Cable - Senior NCO's now incur a certain amount of time before retiring at that rank. Times change fast,
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