Posted on Jan 25, 2020
I have a soldier with an ETS date is in 20 days, and the command wants to give him a PT test. Does the soldier have to do it/pass or fail?
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One week before I retired Bn scheduled me to take a Basic Skills Test. I told them that I was retiring the following week. They insisted, so I went to each station and told them to fail me. Guess they a bad example for the younger troops to be sure. Guess they never heard of FIGMO.
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CPL Jarod Depastene
He's already past his window at 20 days. Once that countdown hits 29 days, re-up is no longer an option.
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It is not that big of a secret that some commands tend to be rectal sphincters and will make a soldier stand and IG inspection with less time than that before there ETS/DEROS date, especially to harass a member of a unit.
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Yes, he is still on the AA-162. He counts against the unit until he is officially out. It will also trigger an event in DTMS where a Soldier has lapsed. I am sure your command is trying to get up to 100% on DTMS and they is why. He still has to take a PT test. I have heard people say that you can't do PT after you do your final physical but it is not in any regulation that I have ever found.
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SSG (Join to see)
It’s not in any regulation sir, but it does mention it on the Part 2 paperwork you get when it’s done. If the soldier was to get injured during the PT test, then the command takes responsibility
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SSG Robert Webster
SSG (Join to see) - Please explain what Part 2 paperwork is and what form is it and what regulation governs it?
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LTJG Kevin Matthews
If the performance of ONE individual makes a major difference on DTMS, then there's either a problem with DTMS or a problem with the unit.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
SSG (Join to see) The Command is responsible forba Soldier getting injured on a PT Test with 2 years before ETS, too.
Just sayin'
Just sayin'
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I agree with others. he should be clearing and getting his appointments together. As other have said if he gets injured he is a medical hold for who knows how long. Let that soldier go.
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Not knowing the Soldier or his command, seeing this makes me understand why he's ETS'ing in the first place. 100% harassment here.
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Sounds like Harassment, Some units Turn on a soldier when they Prepare to ETS. We should thank them for their Service and Help them to make a great transition. Not Every one came in for 20 years, Some had goals to serve one or two enlistment. I have had Soldiers to Change their mind when I would support them Either way. I have been retired for several years now and still have soldiers calling me to advise them. He no longer counts on the books,Give him his time and mentor him in the transition. No one stays in the service for ever ETS or Retire we all will transition one day. Not every one steps up to serve Take care of the ones who did.
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Col Campion, it serves no one when the chain of command singles out one person intentionally. Moral and esprit de corps is only strengthen collectively and is easily damaged when members are singled out. Encourage the individual to participate, do his best simple to support this team mates and friends so as to build the bond as he departs active service and becomes a Veteran for Life.
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A few months ago, I had to give a retiring SFC a PT test IOT for him to receive his Retirement award. It came down from CG who wouldn't approve his MSM without current APFT. He was clearing and was within 7 days of his retirement ceremony. He took the APFT and passed and he was good sport about it. He could of refused but likely would have had award downgraded at Installation level
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